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#1 Oct 13 2008 at 3:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hello guys, I don't post up on these forums often but something of a concern is starting up on the Fenrir server of which I want to know more about.

Recently, I've learned that one of my linkshell's member Avail has been screwed out of his drops by Nathien using the quartermaster/warp scheme on the peacock charm BCNM (happened on 10/8). Long-story short, I have talked with Nathien, who has given me the excuse that the items were his so Avail should get over it (didn't really talk about it that much), so naturally I cut him off from my Dynamis shell and all affiliated branches my shell did.

Now, yesterday I have heard word that someone was booted out of the party for the same BCNM cause a peacock charm dropped on his orb, which suprisingly I found out that Nathien was in the initial group that kicked the person out. Note that this information was through a rumor spread through one of the social shells I'm in.

In any case, has this guy been a habitual problem? Because I'm quite worried is if this habitual process would somehow get into endgame events.


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#2 Oct 14 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hey Artanis.
There was a thread before complaining about exactly the same thing- Nathien cheating people out of their PCCs and the ******* GMs unable to do anything about it.

"What would you do" was the thread title I believe.

Always see Nathien shouting for his BCNM. Make sure you spread the word to not go with this guy.
His excuse is "I've already got the rare/ex version" <- lol. He's an idiot, don't run with him.
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#3 Oct 14 2008 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds like he's getting ready to do a server transfer.
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#4 Oct 14 2008 at 9:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the warning lol. I saw there was a bluegartr thread starting up about him already. Oh, heres a link to the thread matty was talking about:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=41;mid=121837184644693949;num=8;page=1
#5 Oct 14 2008 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
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You know, I'm kinda paranoid now cause everytime i see Nathien shouting for ODS or UO, someone says something to him in shout then he dcs and a new ODS or UO shout would happen whenever he's not on xD Does this dude have a 2nd or third character?
#6 Oct 14 2008 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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Havster says his mule is Aidena, if that helps.

I remember shouting for people not to join him because he's a thief.

He responded with: "I already have the rare/ex, why would I steal another?" <-- Durr... Iunno?

And I think some chap named Terri got butthurt and was like..."OMG, why must people ruin other's reputations!" and I was like... >:D
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#7 Oct 14 2008 at 5:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah thats his mule that he used to sell the last one on, we got someone on his FL to conf its him shouting lol.

Was then kicked from Wabbits Dyna shell.
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#8 Oct 15 2008 at 4:45 AM Rating: Good
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Nathien is STILL ******** people over like this ?!?!?!?!?



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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=41;mid=121837184644693949;num=8;page=1
#9 Oct 16 2008 at 3:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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He is, as I type this, shouting for UO on his mule now, Aidena.

I questioned them if they are Nathiens mule and they denied it and have been added to FL, so watch this space, Main name is saying Aidena on FL.

If Nathien appears on this account then I will confirm.

Could of course be a totally seperate account but as the person who was originally on his FL is someone I know I dont think this is the case.

Will post asap......



Edited, Oct 16th 2008 8:40am by Havster
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#10 Oct 16 2008 at 4:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Update:

Aidena logged off 5 mins later..... amazingly Nathien then logged on.

Although coincidental this isnt proof and Aidena is still showing offline.

Invisible status does this though so im still very much hmmmmmmmm. I will wait for my friend to come online and then conf if Nathien is on invis status.

Till I see them both online at once im not convinced at the mo especially as it was a respected friend of mine who told us about this mule in the first place and the answer in WG to "befriend me and it will be clear" was answered with "I dont have to prove anything".

Personally I would go all guns blazing to prove my name but thats just me.

Ill take my pipe and magnifying glass and keep on looking.

Edited, Oct 16th 2008 8:40am by Havster
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#11 Oct 16 2008 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't go too deep into this cause I personally believe that we all should have limits on how we go into each other's affairs. However, the message remains clear and that is, for the most part, is to come to an understanding that mistakes do happen on our part and others, big and small, and that this incident is a cold reminder that this will perpetually exist in this game forever. I'm certainly glad the Fenrir community has been made aware of this, but I think its time to move on, as we have certainly learned our lesson and hopefully Nathien learned his which is not to trifle against the trust of the community.

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#12 Oct 16 2008 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Very nicely put an from and ethics point of view I agree, but his AH.com message currently in place to everyone regarding people "crying over spilt milk" just made me more intent on finding this out and, primarily, clearing Aidena's name should it be called for. :)

Elementary my dear Watson. *puffs on his pipe*
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#13 Oct 16 2008 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Just get the word out, no need to stalk him.
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#14 Oct 16 2008 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Not actually him im bothered about, its confirming this is his mule lol, dont want someone being accused thats not guilty, Nathien I dont give a toss about.
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Goldsmithing L56 >:/
#15 Oct 16 2008 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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"give a toss about him"

I love Euro idioms ^^ Maybe it is the foreign sound to them, or maybe just because I never hear them. Still very cool.
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#16 Oct 16 2008 at 4:27 PM Rating: Default
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Didn't someone already say that they're the same person though? Sold PCC he stole on that char and all.

What you're doing is good and all but we can just take their word for it just as much as yours.

Moral of story: Don't do OU with a pick-up group.
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#17 Oct 16 2008 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, was me that said it lol. From a good friend of mine who got on his FL. Thats plenty for me but was trying to offer you all more.

NP to me as has no bearing on my gameplay. :D

Totally agree BTW I dont do pickups, never have but if I did I would ask for lead on my run.

Edited, Oct 16th 2008 8:49pm by Havster
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#18 Oct 21 2008 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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I looked into this thread thinking someone wanted to do Shooting Fish BCNM... I was hoping to find a SMN who I could duo Shooting Fish with because I usually solo it on my SMN. Let down once again... Trickery! ;)

Back to Gusgen Mines. Take it easy fellow adventurers.
#19 Oct 21 2008 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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not sure if this helps, but
Aidena = Nathien
He's from Sylph (same server as me)
i KNOW for a fact he has another mule on this server, some taru rdm, i dont quite remember the name though.
He was accused of stealing some things back on sylph, on his old hume character, but quickly deleted it and started over as Drevian, then around last year came to fenrir, and changed his character name to Nathien.

Hope that helps abit..or somethin ._.;
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#20 Oct 21 2008 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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He shouted in WG if anyone wanted to be his friend...

Pity or laugh can't decide.
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#21 Apr 24 2009 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Some habits are hard to break, I guess.

I just climbed Nyzul Isle to floor 16 with this guy. I won't complain, because hey, I got what I wanted - to floor 16! However:

http://www.sethimothy.net/ffxi/Nathien_Steals_items.png

The sword and spear he got were crap, but the ??? necklace? Three guesses what it was.

No hard feelings, but after finding a couple threads like this one I thought I'd add that he hasn't changed.

Edited, Apr 24th 2009 1:16pm by Sethimothy
#22 Apr 24 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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That doesn't really prove anything. Though it's a good guess.
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