A you trying to make me a feminist?Follow

And you get what you pay for.

That would certainly be helpful.

Why is it you think the hookers want GTA game pulled?

Edited, Dec 11th 2014 2:22pm by Elinda

Your statement, while perhaps correct information doesn't answer the question.

I suspect hookers don't' want to be beaten up every 5th day they go to work is why they speak out. The actions they've taken to pressure mainstream retailers to pull the game may not be totally rational, but it's something within their power that draws attention to the issues.

Tirith's tirade to splurge the content all over youtube is just spiteful.





Edited, Dec 11th 2014 2:49pm by Elinda

I don't think they're the ones wanting the game off shelves.

Finding "violent games makes people violent" laughable isn't bias after decades of studies showing the opposite.

From a gaming stand-point the combat, the action, the speed, the controls, the goals can all be basically the same whether we're killing hookers, orcs or bunny rabbits. I don't find offense in it killing innocents in virtual worlds, but I'm not an abuse survivor so i can't really pass judgement on the feelings of those who are.

That's my take on it.

I don't like to see censorship and don't think it's an answer. Our media is more of a symptom than a condition. I'm ok with restrictions, though in the case of Target and K-Mart in this case they're not restricting games consistently (they sell other +18 games)

As far as gaming, games change, they keep changing. It would be kind of silly if they didn't change. If violence exacted on weaker populations falls out of favor in conquering virtual worlds, I'd probably not shed a tear. I'll still find games with sufficient 'goals' to keep me from doing anything really constructive with my life.

No, I get it. But it's not much different than all the other arguments in the thread. From the column:

That's misleading. It has ingrained violence against people given that you spend equal (if not more) time killing males than females. Or cops and gang members than prostitutes. It's like the Watch Dogs example where you take an instance of violence against a woman and claim it's promoting violence against women.

I'm sure the woman starting the drive is 100% sincere and I don't hate her or want her set on fire or any ill to come to her. I also think that, despite her sincerity, she's wrong and that her experiences probably color what she thinks she's seeing or gives her blinders against the bigger picture.

Edited, Dec 11th 2014 8:58am by Jophiel

This is why we can't have nice things.

The only petition in the last three pages is the one Pold posted about Canada, which has no reference to it being made by anyone in the industry. The article about Australia makes no reference to sex workers.

Edited, Dec 11th 2014 10:14am by lolgaxe

Yeah, that is interesting. When I first started playing a warg in Lotro, I had a hard time killing the hobbit npcs (the player hobbits were easy to kill as they were always trying to kill me).

I suppose the 'faction' meters in many games is like built in virtual morality. In, "Don't Stave" there is a naughtiness meter - kill too many bunnies and you'll spawn Krumpus who will come and steal all your stuff.

Here's a question I asked myself when reading about all this (I don't have a clear answer for myself); Is censorship ever justified?

Apparently it's a FAQ as debate.org has a debate about it.

Edited, Dec 11th 2014 4:38pm by Elinda

To use a heavy-handed example, I wouldn't be opposed to opposing a child rape simulator. Honestly, I could even give the "censor this due to misogyny" argument more traction if these games had a "Kill 100 Prostitutes" achievement or something else directly rewarding violence against women versus simply objecting to the fact that women make up part of the murderable game population. Although, in that situation, I'd be supporting the consumer effort to boycott/block it versus supporting a government effort.

Edited, Dec 11th 2014 9:48am by Jophiel

Wrong thread?