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I think that's a cop out though. That's like dismissing the whole "if you like your heath care you can keep it" thing because only people who were already against Obamcare cared that this claim wasn't true.

I'll say the same thing I say every single time you (or any of a dozen other's from the peanut gallery) pull the whole "it's not a big cost/deal/whatever" after the fact: If that's true, then why weren't they honest about these things up front when trying to get support? Why not say "Yup. Many of you will lose your current health care, but you'll get something better in return!", or "It'll cost more, but the benefits are worth the cost".

I can respect an honest socialist. What kills me is how many people clearly support socialist ideas, but clearly also realize that most people around them don't, but instead of trying to change their minds, they decide to just lie about what they're doing and the effects it will have. That's dishonest as hell. If you honestly believe that the costs and inconveniences of Obamcare are well worth it for the benefits, then freaking say so. Not on a forum after the fact. But openly, publicly, while the debate is going on.


But you guys on the left never do this, do you? Which, as I say often, speaks volumes about your opinion about your own ideology. How can you believe in an ideology that you have to lie about to trick people into adopting? If it's so great, then win people over. If you can't, then maybe acknowledge that maybe it's not so great.




And yet, a topic was created, and folks jumped out of the woodwork to deride the business for doing so. Even your whole "speck of dust" comment is clearly designed to be dismissive. If it's no big deal, then why make a big deal out of how you think it's no big deal? Just let him do what he wants and let his customers decide (gee. It's like I've been saying this over and over).

Alinsky was big on humorously discussing a restaurant receipt with an audience of 30 people, I guess. Really firin' up the counterculture in here.

*sheepish voice*

I just thought it would be something interesting to discuss.

I guess I should post more to work my way out of obscurity.

No way. Liberals are REALLY MAD about this and Gbaji has to explain to us why we're wrong. And if you're not REALLY MAD it's because you're pretending not to be and trying to fool others because you really are.

Hold on, you said "no" but then you quoted him saying both what you suggested and what I suggested. So he said both, and we were both correct. But you refused to say "Actually, we're both correct." Now that's kind of senseless.

And I did say I would not get into a senseless debate. So, I'm going to concede that you are absolutely right, and I was completely wrong. There, now isn't that better? I'm letting you be right without being correct.

It's more than gimmicky, it'bad business. Why alienate a portion of you customer base? Politics and retail don't mix so well.

I realize that I appear to be business ignorant to some/many, but I would argue that the intent should be to expand the base WITHOUT alienating.

I'm more upset that the customer didn't want a bun on his damn chili dog.

I'm aware of the climate, I was just validating Elinda's question. Just like Arizona's anti-gay law. If I'm a baker, anything short of "cake-bombs", I wouldn't care what you do with the cake. It's silly to alienate a group of people for the sake of politics. If I were a baker in Arizona, I would support the ban just to take their customers.

Blah, blah "any publicity" blah, blah.

Since the chance of me (or any of us) eating there is approximately nil, there isn't much benefit -- or cost -- to us discussing it.

That creature has stolen the space modulator!