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#177 Mar 05 2014 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
Ironically, the healthiest meal I was able to get at McDs was also the cheapest. Grilled chicken value meal sandwich, no mayo. Side salad, no cheese or mayo. Cup of water. About $3.50 or so for a relatively balanced meal of protein, carbs, and vegetables, under 400 calories total.
#178 Mar 05 2014 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ironically, the healthiest meal I was able to get at McDs was also the cheapest. Grilled chicken value meal sandwich, no mayo. Side salad, no cheese or mayo. Cup of water. About $3.50 or so for a relatively balanced meal of protein, carbs, and vegetables, under 400 calories total.
What a waste, I can get 3 McDoubles worth about 1200 calories for that price.
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#179 Mar 05 2014 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I just clicked the red arrow because jesus christ man, this a forum not a @#%^ing novel.


Um.. Ok. Short version:

The best way to maximize the "haves versus have-nots" effect in a society is to increase minimum wage to a "living wage" level. Bonus points if you also add things like subsidized housing, food, transportation, etc to those near that living wage level. You increase the amount of effort required to advance beyond that living wage level at the same time you decrease the motivation and reward for doing so.

Get it?


See why can't you just post like this.

You may increase the amount of effort to advance above the required living amount, but you also require less effort to maintain that required living amount. Its no lie that people on a part time job can not afford to live an average lifestyle in the US. Raising the minimum wage may allow more people to do that it will pull some people off government assistance, and it will reduce assistance many need by pulling the very large % of people that aren't close to the average living requirements closer to it.

And it has no impact on anyone already over those amounts, other than some ego thing where they think they are entitled to earn more because they worked there longer. If a company feels long term employees deserve to keep their spread from minimum earners, then that is the companies choice. Just as it is the companies choice to pay one dude 1000x more than the average earner in the company. and if you don't like that someone who just started earns closer to the same amount you do...you can always go and find a new job that will pay you what you think you deserve.

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#180 Mar 05 2014 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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Ironically, the healthiest meal I was able to get at McDs was also the cheapest. Grilled chicken value meal sandwich, no mayo. Side salad, no cheese or mayo. Cup of water. About $3.50 or so for a relatively balanced meal of protein, carbs, and vegetables, under 400 calories total.
What a waste, I can get 3 McDoubles worth about 1200 calories for that price.


Three sandwiches isn't a meal, it's three sandwiches.
#181 Mar 05 2014 at 10:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ironically, the healthiest meal I was able to get at McDs was also the cheapest. Grilled chicken value meal sandwich, no mayo. Side salad, no cheese or mayo. Cup of water. About $3.50 or so for a relatively balanced meal of protein, carbs, and vegetables, under 400 calories total.
What a waste, I can get 3 McDoubles worth about 1200 calories for that price.


Three sandwiches isn't a meal, it's three sandwiches.
That other stuff is just shameless overpriced filler so they can make more money. It's fast food, it's McDonalds, the bar is low. You find out what gives you the most calories/dollar and wolf it down before you can start to think about what they made it out of.
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#182 Mar 05 2014 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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A McDonald's experience isn't worth having without the french fries. Also their chocolate shakes aren't bad.


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#183 Mar 05 2014 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Got nothing against their shakes, fries are average, nothing special. It's also entirely possible I've been there too many times in the last couple of years. Something about kids and chicken nuggets, whatever they put in those things to keep the little ones addicted is working.
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#184 Mar 05 2014 at 11:03 AM Rating: Good
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Wendys fries with the sea salt are the best imo.
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#185 Mar 05 2014 at 11:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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I had a Shamrock shake the other day. It wasn't as good as I remembered, even though they dress it up these days in those clear cups with the domed lid and whipped cream on top.
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#186 Mar 05 2014 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
Wendys fries with the sea salt are the best imo.
I can't tell any difference between sea salt and good old table salt.

Wendy's smoothie's are better than McD's over-priced since they moved up into the dessert menu and got fancy cups and whipped cream shakes though.
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#187 Mar 05 2014 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, it wouldn't have taken much to be better than that shake. It wasn't inedible but it wasn't anything to purchase twice either.

I doubt I could pass a double blind taste test in salts although the sea salt seems to season my chicken better when I cook it. Might just be the size of the crystals and their reaction to the cooking process or something. Or I'm just a tool of Big Sea Salt.
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#188 Mar 05 2014 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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.... although the sea salt seems to season my chicken better when I cook it.
That's all that matters.

I suspect that the grain size does have something to do with it. I buy course-grained sugar to top my muffins with. It gives better texture.
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#189 Mar 05 2014 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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.... although the sea salt seems to season my chicken better when I cook it.
That's all that matters.

I suspect that the grain size does have something to do with it. I buy course-grained sugar to top my muffins with. It gives better texture.


Its healthier to, since it is largely unprocessed it retains many other mineral deposits like magnesium, potassium, and calcium. Table Salt doesn't retain these minerals due to its processing and is mixed with other additives like Iodine, and an Anti Clumping agent that is not toxic but does nothing of worth for the body.
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#190 Mar 05 2014 at 4:32 PM Rating: Default
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I said that by continually rating down posts you disagree with (not just mine), you create an environment that is hostile to any speech that is unpopular, and thus will suppress "free speech", not just by me, but by anyone who contemplates posting something which the majority may not like. It's not an absolute, but a trend.


I 110% agree with your assessment of the rating trend, but I disagree with your belief in response to "free speech". Getting rated down, called an idiot, etc., do not affect your ability to speak your mind. Do you honestly believe that we are the only ones that have contrary beliefs? Others are too concerned about being ridiculed, that they either remain reticent or attack the easy targets (e.g., you and me) to fit in. That's the choice that they made. There aren't any laws preventing anyone from participating in these conversations, so therefore, there's no suppression of free speech.
#191 Mar 05 2014 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
You guys are so ******* brave. Me, I feel a constant need to censor myself just to fit in.

Tragic, really.
#192 Mar 05 2014 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm awesome so everything I said is immediately accepted and elevated to the status of majority opinion. Maybe the rest of you should try being awesome?
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#193 Mar 05 2014 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
What Joph said.
#194 Mar 05 2014 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
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I'm awesome so everything I said is immediately accepted and elevated to the status of majority opinion. Maybe the rest of you should try being awesome?


You built a name for yourself, so you are able to disagree and be respected. If a newbie came here arguing against the norm, s/he would be torched.
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I'm awesome so everything I said is immediately accepted and elevated to the status of majority opinion. Maybe the rest of you should try being awesome?


You built a name for yourself, so you are able to disagree and be respected. If a newbie came here arguing against the norm, s/he would be torched.


And if they had any actual belief in what they were saying they wouldn't care.
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#196 Mar 05 2014 at 5:39 PM Rating: Default
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
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I'm awesome so everything I said is immediately accepted and elevated to the status of majority opinion. Maybe the rest of you should try being awesome?


You built a name for yourself, so you are able to disagree and be respected. If a newbie came here arguing against the norm, s/he would be torched.


And if they had any actual belief in what they were saying they wouldn't care.


Exactly why I said Gbaji is wrong on his belief on suppressing "free speech". Your "free speech" is fully intact. No matter what you believe, you will have critics. You can't go to a pro-life forum, argue abortion and complain about feeling pressured not to talk about abortion.
#197 Mar 05 2014 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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Get your own shtick. Smiley: motz
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#198 Mar 05 2014 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
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About $3.50 or so for a relatively balanced meal of protein, carbs, and vegetables, under 400 calories total.

And only .5 kilos of salt.
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#199 Mar 05 2014 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
Under 400 calories isn't really a meal, anyway. You do actually need energy to live, I don't know if anyone ever told you that.
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You've just equated relative wages with buying power, so wouldn't that by definition mean that the higher the gap the lower the buying power of the lower groups?


Sure. No one's arguing over whether someone with more money has more buying power. But while relative buying power grows as the gap grows, the buying power of the poor person doesn't decrease if the rich person has more money. It doesn't work that way. It's not a zero sum game.


The point I was making about buying power was that raising the minimum wage will not increase the buying power of those at the minimum because costs will adjust to match. So someone at minimum wage prior to the increase is still at the minimum after the increase, and while there may be a brief period of time where his dollars buy more, once prices adjust, he's right back where he started. So there's no increase in buying power for him and a decrease in buying power for everyone who was previously earning a wage between the old and new minimum and who didn't also get a raise to keep them ahead of that minimum.
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#201 Mar 05 2014 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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The point I was making about buying power was that raising the minimum wage will not increase the buying power of those at the minimum because costs will adjust to match.


Good point. Except, of course, that we've raised the minimum wage before, and there's never been inflation related to the wage increase, ever. one of those things that sounds promising in your head, but on paper makes no sense and in practice is obviously idiotic.

For costs to "adjust to an increase in the minimum wage" that increase would have to be, in aggregate, about 1000 times larger than it actually is (not hyperbole, it's really that stupid of an idea). About 3 million workers are paid minimum wage. They work about an average of 1000 hours per year. Raising the minimum wage $5 an hour brings in about another 2 million employees who would now be below the federal minimum, also averaging about 1000 hours per year. So let's just say 5 million at 1000 hours each, or 5 billion hours per year. Let's also just assume they all get a raise of $5, pushing an extra $25B into the economy annually. Your argument is that this $25B increase into a 15 TRILLION+ GDP is going to cause inflation.

Can you really not see how ******* mindnumbingly stupid that is?
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