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#1 Nov 07 2013 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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The FDA is banning all trans fats by taking them out of the "generally recognized as safe" category.

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Under the proposal, which is open for public comment for 60 days, the agency would declare that partially hydrogenated oils, the source of trans fats, were no longer “generally recognized as safe,” a legal category that permits the use of salt and caffeine, for example.

That means companies would have to prove scientifically that partially hydrogenated oils are safe to eat, a very high hurdle given that scientific literature overwhelmingly shows the contrary. The Institute of Medicine has concluded that there is no safe level for consumption of artificial trans fats.


I switched back to real butter some time ago. This is good news, I think.
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I'm taking orders for my black market supply of margarine Liberty Butter if you want to get yours in now.
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That means companies would have to prove scientifically that partially hydrogenated oils are safe to eat


Sucks for movie theaters! I remember back in high school a friend of mine confided that the "100% real butter!" used on popcorn is actually "100% partially hydrogenated soybean oil."

Buyer beware! Smiley: oyvey
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That means companies would have to prove scientifically that partially hydrogenated oils are safe to eat


Sucks for movie theaters! I remember back in high school a friend of mine confided that the "100% real butter!" used on popcorn is actually "100% partially hydrogenated soybean oil."

Buyer beware! Smiley: oyvey


I'm pretty sure that the presence of partially hydrogenated oils in movie theater popcorn is the least thing to worry about.
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Pot you're in, Margarine you're out.
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That means companies would have to prove scientifically that partially hydrogenated oils are safe to eat


Sucks for movie theaters! I remember back in high school a friend of mine confided that the "100% real butter!" used on popcorn is actually "100% partially hydrogenated soybean oil."

Buyer beware! Smiley: oyvey


I'm pretty sure that the presence of partially hydrogenated oils in movie theater popcorn is the least thing to worry about.


Likely depends on how often you buy movie theater popcorn! Smiley: popcorn
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I avoid margarine at all costs anyways.
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I don't see what the deal is. There's little in the universe more natural than Hydrogen.
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I switched us back to real butter. I'm ashamed to admit that the main reason I kept using margarine is that it's soft and easy to spread. Smiley: glare
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That's what she said.
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Pot you're in, Margarine you're out.
God bless you liberal America. *sniff* [:happytear:]
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Nadenu wrote:
I switched us back to real butter. I'm ashamed to admit that the main reason I kept using margarine is that it's soft and easy to spread. Smiley: glare

I was surprised to learn that in some climates it's considered fine and acceptable to leave your butter out in the butter dish at room temperature. I think it would melt here in the summer, but I'm tempted to get a real butter dish someday and try it.
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I don't see what the deal is. There's little in the universe more natural than Hydrogen.

It's only partially hydrogen, which is completely unnatural.
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I switched us back to real butter. I'm ashamed to admit that the main reason I kept using margarine is that it's soft and easy to spread. Smiley: glare

I was surprised to learn that in some climates it's considered fine and acceptable to leave your butter out in the butter dish at room temperature. I think it would melt here in the summer, but I'm tempted to get a real butter dish someday and try it.



It does melt.

Ideally though butter is served at room temperature, and stored in the fridge. When I spoil myself and get butter for bagels I just put it in the fridge at night, and take it out with the morning coffee. Sometimes I forget and wake up to semi hard butter puddles (it cools at night.)

If you have AC or CA, and don't leave it in sunpots it generally stays a semisoft block, in the sense it can spread easily but isn't drippy.

Caring for butter is tough work.

Which is why its a scam. Butter companies are worried about losing market share to Canada, who is going to have access to EU butter if the trade deal goes through. Y'all are getting hosed out of margarine because Euro competition in Canada will push Canada competition in America. But its cool, most of 'Murika is to fat already.

Just spread bacon grease on ice cream or something .....

Canada ******* America since 1815. seriously look at this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/MYVTlu6.jpg

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Canada ******* America since 1815. seriously look at this picture.

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Well that explains why Detroit is the way it is.
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Thats just the tip!
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Even as little as two or three grams of trans fat a day can increase the health risk, scientists say.

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Americans ate about one gram a day last year

I'm confused.
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Even as little as two or three grams of trans fat a day can increase the health risk, scientists say.

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Americans ate about one gram a day last year

I'm confused.


Its the butter scandal, you guys are now experience the equivalent of the Syrup Scandal. You have a separatist movement, you are working to universal health coverage, and now you have an inferior substitute scandal.

You guys have stolen so much Canadian Culture, you are becoming Canada! Next thing you know you will have Crack smoking Mayors!

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Next thing you know you will have Crack smoking Mayors!
I believe we did that one already, if I'm recalling my Chris Rock jokes correctly.
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You guys have stolen so much Canadian Culture, you are becoming Canada! Next thing you know you will have Crack smoking Mayors!

Soooooo 1990.

Watch out, in another year or two you guys are going to learn about this new music called "grunge". I don't want to spoil anything but, protip: buy flannel shirts now.
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That Cobain kid is really going to go places.
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I use some "Fresh Buttery Taste Spread" from LOL, because that's what I grew up with. I think it used to be "Spread With Sweet Cream".
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I worked briefly in the analytic lab at Land-o-lakes food. One of my tests required I determine the pH of the ash of various spreads. I don't know if it was the lecithin or the glycerides or what, but the more synthetic the spread the harder time I had cooking it into an ash i could even use in titratation. It was kind of gross. I pretty much swore off butter substitutes at that point.
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Did you get to meet the Indian girl from the box?
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Did you get to meet the Indian girl from the box?

I recall there was some sort of sculpture of her sitting in the lawn of the facility.

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Yeah via smoke signals. This was back in the dark ages.
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I don't want to spoil anything but, protip: buy flannel shirts now.
Aren't all male Canadians required by law to own at least three flannel shirts in case they're drafted into the Lumberjack Corps?
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I don't want to spoil anything but, protip: buy flannel shirts now.
Aren't all male Canadians required by law to own at least three flannel shirts in case they're drafted into the Lumberjack Corps?


They are given to us for our 18th birthdays by the Government. Every male child in Canada gets 3 plaid flannel shirts mailed to them. One red, one blue and one green. Red are for those who wish to go into logging, blue are for those who wish to go into fisheries and green are for those who wish to go into Agriculture. They are symbolic of Canadas initial three major industries. (we are a very color coordinated people look at our money.)

They also include a list of acceptable euphemisms associated with a particular industry on a card in the pocket. (so you can be polite while being ****** off).

HBC actually lobbied for Britain to write this into law, which is kinda of bogus because they make all the Shirts. But it is Canadian tradition for over 200 years.




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Of course, none of the shirts fit by the time every male turns 23 and has built himself up a nice beer belly.
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Of course, none of the shirts fit by the time every male turns 23 and has built himself up a nice beer belly.


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