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This is clearly a lovers spat between Martin and Zimmerman, which led to an expensive trial, which obviously proves that gay marriage is a burden on our economic systems.

Something like that?

That implies there are =4 threads that you do give a shit about.

I care about you laughing at me

Absolutely. This is exactly what I've been talking about all along. It's not about whether Martin was actually doing anything wrong, but how he reacted to what he believed to be a man calling the police on him. Hell. It's not even about whether Martin was actually doing anything which someone might think was suspicious. All it requires is that he think someone else might think what he was doing was suspicious and is calling the cops on him. And I even explained why this is a problem:




This is why it's relevant. Because as long as we keep excusing the decision of folks like Martin to run in situations like that, and instead attacking everyone else involved for "making him scared", we are only perpetuating the very problem that's contributing to higher arrest and fatalities among black men. Ever watch a cops or worlds wildest police chases (or similar) show? It's pretty common to have the cops show up (or pull someone over for a minor thing) and the guy runs away. The cops chase him because he's running. He runs faster because they're chasing him. Situation escalates, people get hurt, he gets arrested. And when it's all done? No wants. No warrants. Not doing anything illegal. When asked why he ran? "I don't know. I was just scared".

Maybe we should stop teaching people (especially young black men who do seem to be massively more likely to react this way) to fear the police? Because this sure looks to be something that hurts more black men than any number of actual racist cops do. And in this particular case, it resulted in the death of Martin. A death that could have been trivially avoided if he hadn't massively overreacted to the situation he found himself in.

Edited, Aug 15th 2013 1:31pm by gbaji

Okay sure, I'm all for that. People should be able to trust their police people and what not. I'm pretty sure we're working on that already. There's a lot of community outreach programs in various cities, with varying levels of success.

Pretty much. I have an extra special hat if you want one.

Loud nutty people say nutty things loudly. Between the above mentioned and the gun nuts there was plenty of poorly chosen language floating around this case. If all it takes is some nut job in another state saying something to ruin people's opinion of the local cops I'd suspect the local outreach program has other problems.

Sure, the Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie looks stylish, and certanly protects you from the overhead spy brain sat scans, but they also focus your brainwaves straight down like a parabolic array at the thought detectors in the streets. Where are these thought detectors you ask? in the roads, at every crosswalk! Sure some people claim those are just induction loops to control traffic signals, but you and I both know better.

The only sure protection is a tin foil hat AND tin foil deflector underwear with an extra wide overlapping brim!

Do us all a favour, hold your breath waiting for him to admit it.

No, I understood your post. I'm just being optimistic here. It's about thinking positive!

No.

1. You initially argued that Martin's ACTIONS PRIOR to him running were suspicious, hence why Zimmerman made the phone call. Now you're arguing that Martin's FIRST action was him running (even though Zimmerman said otherwise). Both can't be right.

2. You claim that I didn't answer your question on why I think Martin ran, yet when I quote YOUR very own response on how these instances play out, you claim that isn't an answer. So, is it only valid when you say it? It's either an answer or it isn't.

So, you can continue with your lame cop-out (which I predicted).

Also, there are 600 people in the ffxiv forum at the moment. What the hell?

Pregame jitters.