Yes. But one way is @#%^ed up to about .01% of the population , while the other way is @#%^ed up to the other 99.99% of the population. Neither hang up has any more legitimacy than the other, so any sane society should go with not inconveniencing the larger group.
lol, get out. Not all cis people hate trans people. You're also vastly underestimating the number of trans people.
Er? So you either agree with someone 100% and go out of your way to give them whatever they want or you hate them? There's no room in your world for anything in between? People can't just treat each other as people?
Transgendered people who can't handle using a restroom with other people of the same physical **** as themselves are just as phobic.
No, i don't think so. I don't know about anyone else, but personally, i am not afraid of using a men's bathroom. I did it just fine for the first 20 years of my life. I'm simply not comfortable in one. Not because i'm afraid of men, but because i'm in the wrong @#%^ing bathroom.
Are you demanding that public schools change their policies to suite you though?
I'm sure i probably feel similar to how you would feel using a women's bathroom.
Which I think shows just how poorly you understand the issue. My biggest concern if I were to find myself in a women's bathroom would be that I'd make a woman uncomfortable because I have a different set of genitalia than she has and I'm not supposed to be in that restroom. It would not at all be about my own discomfort because "I don't belong" or something.
Which I guess is what I'm getting at. The transgender argument really is selfish IMO. It's about how you feel in a given location or a given role, and whether you feel good or bad, or comfortable or uncomfortable. The rest of us are thinking about how we make other people feel. I really think that's a key difference to this whole deal.
Well the thread is about "Transgender rights". Everyone else has in fact been talking about those things.
It's been mentioned once or twice, but always by someone arguing against this assumed imposition on what transgendered folks can wear or how they can act. No one has once actually argued those things in this thread, so it makes me wonder why it keeps getting brought up.
Also, you don't need quotes around girl. That just makes it seem like you're implying she's not really a girl.
She's not really a girl. I'm sorry, but I refuse to refer to someone who is biologically one **** but feels like another **** by the other term. I think that's incredibly stupid and childish. I honestly despise the whole "gender not sex" thing as well (for similar reasons). I think it makes people sound stupid as **** when they talk like that, and it makes those who go along with it look even more stupid. Those terms apply to the **** of the person.
You want to fight for transgender rights? Stop playing stupid word games. Fight instead for the idea that there's nothing wrong with a man wearing a dress, or wearing makeup, or having bows in his hair. And there's nothing wrong with a woman wearing pants, work gloves, and a short haircut. I don't care if you think your gender is something else. Act like how you want to act, and stop playing stupid labeling games. You are a "he". You are a "man". If you like wearing rose scented perfurme, wearing dresses, and swinging your hips when you walk, that's great. And it makes you no less a man.
That's what you should be fighting for. Not over stupid words and labels. But then, maybe I look a bit farther at issues like this than most.