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Like I said.. Nothing in there mentions or hints a trans having issues.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 1:42am by Almalieque

Biological females with a male gender are called "trans men". The only biological females who would go into the men's bathroom are trans men. You didn't say the men would have a problem with women walking past them. You said the biological females would have a problem walking past the men.

But that's all they refer to.

That isn't the argument he made though.

Edited, Apr 4th 2013 7:49pm by Rachel9

Really, you can't determine their genders based on those pictures?

at this point I am ready to promote unisex bathrooms to make this thread stop. And for the record, I hate sharing a bathroom with anyone at all.

Still clearly a woman even with a men's suit.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 2:21am by Aethien

Not all transvestites are transgender. Not all transgenders are transvestites. And frankly, not all transvestites are about changing their appearance so much as the clothes they wear. Point is there are lots of biological males who wear dresses who are still obviously biological males. This has no bearing on whether their gender identity is male or female. There are biological males who wear what we'd consider traditionally male clothing and also obviously appear "male", but who could be gender male *or* gender female.

And this is before even touching on the subject of sexual orientation as it relates to various trans subgroups. You're comparing a lesbian female, who is obviously not attempting to appear male, with a trans male. They're not even remotely related.

Edited, Apr 4th 2013 5:33pm by gbaji

Dear "Ambassador of Women", you don't have to be the opposite sex to have a basic understanding of the other sex. If you believe that, then I feel sorry for your marriage.

As a gentleman, I have much respect for women and I have displayed that more times than not. Don't confuse my lack of respect for people like you who stands tacitly by when other posters make sexist comments then have the hubris to talk for an entire sex and the audacity to attack me because I don't feed into posters fictional beliefs.

That's one of the many problems with this forum. Posters have become "enablers" for people with obvious problems. I understand the concept of having a place to express yourself with emotional support, but there is a limit.

Excuse me? What have I said in this thread that makes you conclude I don't respect women? I'm sorry, but I really really dislike the "if you don't agree with me, you're a <hater of some group>" argument. It's cheap.

I do recall apologizing if you felt offended, but it doesn't change the truth. I didn't in any way say that all women behave a certain way, but if you're going to argue that men traditionally aren't emotional enough and women are traditionally too emotional, then you're living in a fantasy land.

Given the context of the thread, it is blatantly obvious that the list was not in any way shape or form meant to be derogatory. The intent was to simply express women gender traits. Ironically, you're only proving the point of being over emotional, because the reality is, that is a trait that you have always expressed on this forum.


Furthermore, I asked you to provide a better list and you couldn't. Unless your argument is that men and women behave the same with no differences, then there exist gender traits. You were just too cowardly to present a list in fear of contradicting yourself.

As stated, you say nothing when people make actual sexist comments, only your intentional misinterpretations. As a result, you have NO grounds to insult me.

Most people have different definitions of what respect means to them. Your feminist college professor and traditional housewife (could I stereotype any more?) likely won't agree on what constitutes respectful or offensive behavior. Just tread lightly until you find out what bothers someone, learn their expectations, and do you best not to do something you expect them to disapprove of. Apologize when it appears you have fallen short, and discontinue the offensive behavior. Live and learn.

Also asylum, so exceptions for respectful behavior are rather low.

Edited, Apr 4th 2013 7:22pm by someproteinguy

Alma's foolish phraseology aside, none of this changes the fact that the overwhelming percentage of our society doesn't like the idea of people with penises and vaginas using the same restroom facilities at the same time. You can dance around this issue all you want, but it isn't going to go away. And that's ultimately at the heart of the problem here. No amount of demanding that we should only view this from a gender point of view changes the very real fact that most people view it from a sex point of view.

Having traits typical of one gender does not make you that gender. You have a male gender. You do not have a female gender. You would NOT have the right to use the women's bathroom.