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#27 Mar 08 2013 at 12:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tacosid wrote:
His last words were "Please don't let me die"

Undoubtedly mine will be:

"Maybe having six of you at once, was too much."

That would be embarrassing, dying in a heap of Big Mac wrappers.
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#28 Mar 08 2013 at 12:53 AM Rating: Good
My ex-coworker was born in Venezuela, she would like to assure you there is nothing revisionist about Chavez hurting Venezuela, especially on crime rates, political violence, poor US relations, corruption, or general craziness.
#29 Mar 08 2013 at 7:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tacosid wrote:
"Maybe having six of you at once, was too much."
That would be embarrassing, dying in a heap of Big Mac wrappers.

I assumed a Kung-Fu fight against five year olds.
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#30 Mar 08 2013 at 8:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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A friend of mine just returned home to Venezuela yesterday. He said Chavez dying was an awesome graduation/home-coming present Smiley: lol
#31 Mar 08 2013 at 2:59 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
You're the one assuming that "poor" == "negro". Racial stereotype much?

Well, I'm the one assuming that blacks are minorities since he explicitly said that he lost minorities because he underestimated how much they wanted that free health care.


Wait! So poor == minority cause Romney said they wanted free health care. And minority == negro because...?

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That's some racial stereotyping of me! Naughty, naughty me! Smiley: laugh


Yes. You've been very naughty Joph.
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#32 Mar 08 2013 at 3:00 PM Rating: Default
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shintasama wrote:
My ex-coworker was born in Venezuela, she would like to assure you there is nothing revisionist about Chavez hurting Venezuela, especially on crime rates, political violence, poor US relations, corruption, or general craziness.


The revisionism is attempting to paint him as some kind of reformer instead of an opportunist.
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#33 Mar 08 2013 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:

Wait! So poor == minority cause Romney said they wanted free health care. And minority == negro because...?
No one said anything about 'poor' until you simply equated poor to negro. I think Joph used negro as an example of a minority. That seems to make everything make the most sense.

You on drugs?
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#34 Mar 08 2013 at 3:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Wait! So poor == minority cause Romney said they wanted free health care. And minority == negro because...?

No, try again.

Here, in fact I'll skip your usual nonsense and make it easy on you. It was a riff on Romney's repeated claims that he lost because poor minorities want free stuff, like health care. I'd think that would be easy to noodle out but I suppose I underestimated the size of your disconnect.

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 3:46pm by Jophiel
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#35 Mar 08 2013 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
shintasama wrote:
My ex-coworker was born in Venezuela, she would like to assure you there is nothing revisionist about Chavez hurting Venezuela, especially on crime rates, political violence, poor US relations, corruption, or general craziness.


The revisionism is attempting to paint him as some kind of reformer instead of an opportunist.


Technically, he was a reformer, just not a good one. lol

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 7:35pm by shintasama
#36 Mar 08 2013 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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He nationalized the (US owned) oil industry and redistributed the profits to the poor in the form of health care, education, housing and infrastructure improvements.

To gbaji, this makes him somewhere south of Satan.
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#37 Mar 08 2013 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
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To be fair, if you give poor people free fridges, they're going to vote for you.
Chav-chillers? Free phones win you votes too.


Free health care works even better though.


Elinda wrote:
gbaji wrote:

Wait! So poor == minority cause Romney said they wanted free health care. And minority == negro because...?
No one said anything about 'poor' until you simply equated poor to negro.


Do you guys just not read, or not follow at all the thread of a conversation. This is twice in one day that someone has pulled the "no one said that", when I was directly responding to someone saying exactly that. Holy hell, it was even *you* who first made the response. Did you just forget?

Um... It was Joph who equated being poor to being a negro. WTF?

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I think Joph used negro as an example of a minority.


You "think"? Go and read what he wrote, then come back.

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You on drugs?


Smiley: dubious
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#38 Mar 08 2013 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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That would be embarrassing, dying in a heap of Big Mac wrappers.


Better than dying eating a half dozen McRibs.
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#39 Mar 08 2013 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The revisionism is attempting to paint him as some kind of reformer instead of an opportunist.


Opportunist? Why so mild? He was an egomaniac. Something he shared with every leader of a nation state. You don't get or keep the job otherwise. Would it have been better if he didn't run for dictator for life? Yes. Would more poor Venezuelans have died if he hadn't come to power? Yes. I guess it depends how you measure accomplishments. On balance, I'm going to say the less dead people thing vs the personal aggrandize thing sums to a net plus.
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