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#52 Jan 26 2013 at 8:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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TirithRR wrote:
Also, when I initially heard this story (a few weeks ago), they were just talking about how they measured 10 subs and found only a small number of them were 11.5 inches. Seems that as the story progresses they are saying the subs are smaller and smaller.

The 10.5" measurement was per the lawyer from the case talking. Although there's another nearly identical case in New Jersey (they expect at some point they'll link up and make it a national suit) so perhaps accounts between the two differ, or there's exaggeration or just people being wrong.
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#53 Jan 26 2013 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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All the Quiznos around here seemed to have disappeared. They were pretty popular when I first moved here, I've no idea what happened.

I like Scholtzky's, not the greatest but better than Subway. I used to love Subway when I was a kid, it seems pretty bland to me now. There's a few deli-type places around town, I'll generally go to any of them before I got to Subway.
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#54 Jan 26 2013 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Schlotzskys or bust.

A quarter pound hamburger doesn't weigh a quarter of a pound by the time it's served, either.

Edited, Jan 25th 2013 4:51pm by BrownDuck



Which is probably why BK or McD's or whoever don't mount an advertising campaign showing a cooked burger patty weighing four ounces. In fact, they're pretty careful to put "pre-cooked patty weight" type verbiage in very small print in their ads.

The issue here is false advertising, right? The suit might have some merit based on deliberate misrepresentation.

Now, having said that, who really cares if you get an extra bite of bread or not? The meat and cheese are pre-weighed. You'd get the same amount whether it's stretched out along twelve inches of bread or compressed onto ten and a half.

If you're that excited about mediocre bread, eat toast.
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If you're that excited about mediocre bread, eat toast.


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"If people are really that excited about mediocre bread, I say:

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#59 Jan 28 2013 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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All the Quiznos around here seemed to have disappeared. They were pretty popular when I first moved here, I've no idea what happened.


$875 million in debts happened.
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From what I understand (which ain't a lot in this regard), Quiznos did the classic "Get moderately successful and rapidly over-expand until it all collapses" error. See: Krispy Kreme.
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#61 Jan 28 2013 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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They didn't even over-expand, they had to refund almost 60% of their franchise fees because the potential operators changed their mind about opening a Quiznos there.
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A quarter pound hamburger doesn't weigh a quarter of a pound by the time it's served, either.

Which is probably why BK or McD's or whoever don't mount an advertising campaign showing a cooked burger patty weighing four ounces. In fact, they're pretty careful to put "pre-cooked patty weight" type verbiage in very small print in their ads.


I'm sure it's mentioned, and I'm sure that's how they avoid lawsuits, but "quarter pound" is also a specific weight measurement. "Foot long" is not. If they sell subs labeled as 6", 9", and 12" sizes, I expect some degree of accuracy in terms of actual length. The fact that they call it a "foot long" should be the first hint that the length is an approximation and not intended to be a precise measurement of the length of the sub.

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The issue here is false advertising, right? The suit might have some merit based on deliberate misrepresentation.


I'm sure it has some merit. I'm also equally sure it's a waste of time and money for everyone except the lawyers involved.

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Now, having said that, who really cares if you get an extra bite of bread or not? The meat and cheese are pre-weighed. You'd get the same amount whether it's stretched out along twelve inches of bread or compressed onto ten and a half.


Exactly. It's not about the exact length of the bread, but the relative "size" of the sandwich as a whole. The question should not be "did they use a term that wasn't exactly correct", but "did they actually rip off their customers in any real way"? And the answer to the latter question is "no" (well, unless you count their generally crappy quality product as a whole).



Oh. As to Quiznos, I honestly think it wasn't even over expansion, but that their product choice is questionable. It just doesn't fit into the sub sandwich market that well. While purely anecdotal, the toasted bread that is their whole selling point only really works if it's on one of their more expensive sandwiches. If I'm just getting an italian sub, I don't really need (or want) it on toasted bread. Ditto for most of the cold sandwiches. As a result, it only occurs to me to go to Quiznos if I'm in the mood for a hot toasted sandwich. And those are pretty expensive, so I only decide to do that maybe once or twice a year. I suspect that lots of other people make the same kind of choice. There's one in the mall near my home, and on the rare occasion I do go in there, I rarely ever see anyone else in the store. Maybe one other customer. I imagine this is even worse since they recently moved all the fast food type places to one end of the mall (except for the McDonalds and the El Pollo Loco which are in separate buildings). So now the Quiznos, instead of being by itself in one part of the mall is right next door to a Rubios, and a short distance from a Panda Express. Hmmm... Quiznos, or Rubios. Not really a question unless I'm really really in the mood for a toasted sandwich.
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I'm sure it's mentioned, and I'm sure that's how they avoid lawsuits, but "quarter pound" is also a specific weight measurement. "Foot long" is not.

Since when is a foot not a specific unit of measurement?
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If they sell subs labeled as 6", 9", and 12" sizes

I guess they don't teach this in the California schools but a foot (as a unit of measurement) equals exactly twelve inches. They're the same exact thing.

Edited, Jan 29th 2013 7:58pm by Jophiel
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
I'm sure it's mentioned, and I'm sure that's how they avoid lawsuits, but "quarter pound" is also a specific weight measurement. "Foot long" is not.

Since when is a foot not a specific unit of measurement?


Cause, it's obviously the length of a person's foot.

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If they sell subs labeled as 6", 9", and 12" sizes

I guess they don't teach this in the California schools but a foot (as a unit of measurement) equals exactly twelve inches. They're the same exact thing.


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As mentioned upthread anyway, Subway already tried the "What? 'Foot long' could mean anything!" argument in the Australia case and was forced to drop it with a quickness.

Also this:


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#69 Jan 30 2013 at 6:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm sure it's mentioned, and I'm sure that's how they avoid lawsuits, but "quarter pound" is also a specific weight measurement. "Foot long" is not.


Now you're just trolling. You don't really believe all the shit you spew on this forum, do you? 'Cause that would be, well, retarded. Growing up with a 2nd cousin whom was actually developmentally disabled, I learned at a young age you can't win an argument with a 'sperger.

You don't have aspergers, do you? 'Cause that would explain TONS. Especially the delusion you're under that you're the smartest guy in the "room".
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A foot is a precise measure - every bit as much as a pound.
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Jophiel wrote:
Since when is a foot not a specific unit of measurement?
Well, it's math, and we know how resistant to that he is.
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#72gbaji, Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 6:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And I guess they don't teach that you can't define a measurement without a number and a unit in Illinois. Labeling your subs "foot long", does not mean anything. 6" sub means a sub that is 6 inches long because it has the units "inches" and the number of those units "6". A quarter pounder is similarly a number "1/4", and a unit "pound". You'd have a point if they included the word or number "one" in the name. But they don't (or at least I've never seen them do this). How many feet are in a "foot long sub"? We can't assume that the number is 1.
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I'm sure it's mentioned, and I'm sure that's how they avoid lawsuits, but "quarter pound" is also a specific weight measurement. "Foot long" is not.

Since when is a foot not a specific unit of measurement?
A "foot" is. A "foot long" is not. If they were advertising their "one foot subs"...

They are. See the video I posted.

I mean, you're being retarded about the "foot long isn't!" [hint: it's two words*, one denoting a unit of measurement, one denoting the dimension being measured] part anyway but it's not especially worth pursuing since their ad plainly shows it being "1 Ft"

*Ok, actually it's a compound word for the sake of trademarking it when Subway uses it.

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I'm sure it's mentioned, and I'm sure that's how they avoid lawsuits, but "quarter pound" is also a specific weight measurement. "Foot long" is not.

Since when is a foot not a specific unit of measurement?
A "foot" is. A "foot long" is not. If they were advertising their "one foot subs"...

They are. See the video I posted.


Sorry. Viewing videos at work is a pain, so I hadn't checked it out. If they did, then that's it then. Stupid for them to use a measurement like that. I still maintain that had they stuck to simply calling it their "foot long sub", it would be a different issue.

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I mean, you're being retarded about the "foot long isn't!" [hint: it's two words, one denoting a unit of measurement, one denoting the dimension being measured] part anyway but it's not especially worth pursuing since their ad plainly shows it being "1 Ft"


Yes. They were stupid to do that. Um... But "foot long" is not a measurement. Unless you think "long" is a number. Did you take any physics at any point in your life?
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Ya, when I tell you something is "a foot wide, a foot high, and a foot long" you have no idea what I'm describing to you in any quantifiable way, right?
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"Long" is a term denoting the dimension being measured (i.e. length).

Did you take 1st grade math with the plastic rulers at any point in your life?
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