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#52 Jun 10 2013 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
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A 26-year-old farm dweller who helped expose the rape of a teenage girl is facing up to 5x more jail time than the high school football members who publicly assaulted the girl. The Steubenville rape case became a national firestorm after it was revealed that dozens of people had witnessed the assault at a party and then shared pictures and social media updates of the event mocking the girl.

And people wonder why there are those that hate America.
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#53 Jun 10 2013 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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xantav wrote:
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A 26-year-old farm dweller who helped expose the rape of a teenage girl is facing up to 5x more jail time than the high school football members who publicly assaulted the girl. The Steubenville rape case became a national firestorm after it was revealed that dozens of people had witnessed the assault at a party and then shared pictures and social media updates of the event mocking the girl.

And people wonder why there are those that hate America.

Different crimes committed in different jurisdictions. There is really no basis to compare the two.

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#54 Jun 10 2013 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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The writing on it is a bit misleading. "Is facing up to...", ok sure. But the rapists were also facing more time than they received. Seems wrong to compare potential time with actual time.

Plus there's a question of how many charges the hacker dude is facing. If he's facing five charges with a maximum sentence of two years per charge (example, I don't know), then yeah he's theoretically facing ten years. This doesn't mean that all charges will ultimately be pursued, that he'll be convicted on all of them or that he'll serve the maximum time. And it really isn't a reason to decrease the maximum sentence for any specific law.

The bit about the FBI was just sensationalism. The article says the kid hunts (owns a gun) and has a pit bull. Showing up in force is just common sense. Never understood people who seem to think the time to put on riot gear is after the rocks start flying or else you're being too mean and scary.

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U.S. law needs to be to be updated to reflect the values of the free flow of information.

And there's the crux of it. This is less about worrying about rapists and more about weakening laws that restrict hacking.
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#55 Jun 10 2013 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
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Never understood people who seem to think the time to put on riot gear is after the rocks start flying or else you're being too mean and scary.
I've always found it better to scare people out of throwing rocks than to hurt them after they've thrown them.
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#56 Jun 10 2013 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I also think that there's a false equivalence between what he did and exposing the rape, as though he's being punished for doing that (or taking part in in really). There are lots of ways to expose a crime. And sending the videos to the authorities and posting them on youtube/wherever would seem to be the first and most logical one (and did result in the investigation which ultimately resulted in criminal charges being filed, so the system worked). What wasn't necessary was the hacking of the school website. Which is what he's being charged for (at least from what I could glean from the article).

Working for the "greater good" doesn't magically empower you to do anything you want along the way. If the goal was really just about getting the message out, there were lots of ways to do so that didn't involve hacking into a public school network. It just feels more to me like that was an excuse to hack something than something that was necessary to get the word out about what was going on. He (they) made it about hacking when it should have been about making sure a crime didn't go unreported and unpunished.
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#57 Jun 11 2013 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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Also, lets not forget that the rapers are legally kids, while the 'farm-dweller' (why this detail is even mentioned is beyond me) is an adult.

This fact alone makes a HUGE difference when doling out punishment.

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#58 Jun 11 2013 at 8:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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He's just a good ole boy, spendin' some lazy time down at the ole hackin' hole after a day of plowin' and milkin'.
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