A firearm question for you LeftiesFollow

There's a crapload of resistance against registration of all firearms, publicly accessible lists of any time you've purchased a firearm, etc. However, you're required to register to vote and voting records are all public record.

Maybe you should pay more attention to what your folks are howling about.

Every time we vote to cut medicare, we vote to kill a senior citizen!

Votes are a substitute for weapons and civil war. Please tell me you understand this? The default means of determining new leadership is for each potential leader to gather his supporters and take control. If it's contested, his side fights with the other guys side until a winner is determined. Hereditary rule is one method of determining new leadership in a more civilized manner and without this potential bloodshed (although that still didn't always work). Elections are another method.

So yeah, in our system of government, votes are essentially a stand in for guns and bullets. We fight a civil war every election, only we do it by writing names on pieces of paper instead of shooting at each other.



Exactly. You do realize you're just a polite convention away from being shot by people who disagree with you politically, right? We build up that convention and place great store in it, but it's important to realize what we're really doing when we vote. Part of the rationale behind the 2nd amendment is that if those conventions should fail "the people" can always enforce it via actual force instead of a simulation in the form of an election. Take away that ability and elections and votes become just an empty convention with nothing behind them. In that situation, the government can ignore the people with impunity because their pieces of paper don't have any actual power if those in power choose not to honor them.


So yes, guns should be treated like votes. Because in terms of civil society, that's exactly what they represent.

This explains why the South keeps losing. And to a Negro!

Really, gunshots would be votes. Except your tortured analogy as you scramble for some "freedom!" high ground is already dumb enough.

Edited, Feb 12th 2013 3:19pm by Jophiel

Which can be extremely annoying to those of us west of the Mississippi. Seriously it's been 150 years, move on people.

On the other hand, just as each person gets one vote per cycle, I think it's again fair that they only get one gun. What if I'm trying to "vote" at someone and he pulls out a "vote-stick" in each hand?! Is Gbaji in favor of multiple votes per person!?! As many votes as you can afford to buy--- well, ok. He probably is. But still...

No. Each person, armed with a gun (weapon of the time really), fights for his side and counts as one person fighting for his side. Each person, armed with a vote, fights for his side and counts as one person fighting for his side. Unless you think that in wars, each person just fires one shot at the other side and then goes home?

I am so pleased with the direction this thread is going in.

It's also possible that Gbaji has no clue how war works and actually think that if your army has 100 guys and the other guy's army has 99 guys, you'll win 100% of the time.

I'm still waiting for him to counter my list to his challenge that he provided.

And yet, you've never questioned why "paper covers rock" means you have to empty the dishwasher. It's like mental disconnect day in here or something.

Yup.