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#777 Nov 08 2012 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
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Sure, that was my point. Some people act as though blacks only voted for Obama because he's black. If they got a black guy on the ballot, you'd split that significantly.

Obama did run against a black guy for the IL senate seat, Alan Keyes. Trounced him. Granted Keyes was a miserable candidate and completely whack-a-doodle so he's not the best test, but I can certainly say that he didn't peel apart the African-American vote based on race and some unreleased groundswell for blacks just wishing they could vote Republican.

Republicans seem to have a very shallow notion of how to get minorities to vote for them.


There is still a level of common sense necessary to get the sheeple, but that doesn't mean that they don't exist. If both people are of the same demographic, then you can't say that one would win over the over because of their demographics, because they are the same. However, if the candidates are of different demographics, it is possible to get votes based on demographics, especially if its the first, but you can't be a "whack-a-doodle" and expect to get it. That's why Operation Sarah Palin failed.

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Republicans seem to have a very shallow notion of how to get minorities to vote for them.


Yes, they are desperate. They realize that they can't win solely off the white man vote anymore. Losing 50% of the women is crucial, given that women make up a large percentage of the vote.
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Mitt Romney was "shellshocked" at losing the presidential race, an adviser tells CBS News.

"They thought intensity and enthusiasm were on their side this time -- poll after poll showed Republicans were more motivated to vote than Democrats - and that would translate into votes for Romney. As a result, they believed the public/media polls were skewed -- they thought those polls oversampled Democrats and didn't reflect Republican enthusiasm. They based their own internal polls on turnout levels more favorable to Romney. That was a grave miscalculation, as they would see on election night."

That strikes me as fucking insane that this delusion and self-created blindness carried all the way to the top with Romney himself. It's one thing to assume that the campaign and the GOP intelligentsia were just bullshitting the rank-and-file voters with the "we have the momentum and great internal polls" talk but to hear that Mitt Romney actually believed that the Unskewed Polls dipshit was a more credible source than the wealth of real polling data just blows my mind. Thank God that moron wasn't elected. THAT was the hard facts and data driven economic stewardship we had to look forward to?
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#779 Nov 08 2012 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, I never paid any attention to Rachel Maddow before but I might have to start...

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#780 Nov 08 2012 at 8:56 PM Rating: Default
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Rachel is the Democratic version of Hannity.. Can't stand either of them.... at least alone. Together, I can get the whole picture.
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That strikes me as ******* insane that this delusion and self-created blindness carried all the way to the top with Romney himself. It's one thing to assume that the campaign and the GOP intelligentsia were just ************ the rank-and-file voters with the "we have the momentum and great internal polls" talk but to hear that Mitt Romney actually believed that the Unskewed Polls ******* was a more credible source than the wealth of real polling data just blows my mind. Thank God that moron wasn't elected. THAT was the hard facts and data driven economic stewardship we had to look forward to?

Meh, not that strange, really. The candidate rarely understands what's going on, and that's ok. He's running for President, a job that requires making decisions about things he would know virtually nothing about. It's not like Obama gets briefed on what's happening in Ubekibekibekistan in the morning and then knows more than lead analyst.
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#782 Nov 08 2012 at 9:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, I never paid any attention to Rachel Maddow before but I might have to start...


We watched that. I love her now.
#783 Nov 08 2012 at 10:11 PM Rating: Good
One of the very few folks in the pundit class with a solid education to back up her opinions. Unlike Oldermann, who often comes off sounding like a crazy drunk uncle, she frequently sounds more like a first grade teacher.

Actually, she sort of looks like my kindergarten teacher, Ms Edenfield, come to think of it.
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Also, I never paid any attention to Rachel Maddow before but I might have to start...


We watched that. I love her now.

That, and the Hitler video, are easily the best things I've seen all day.
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It's not like Obama gets briefed on what's happening in Ubekibekibekistan in the morning and then knows more than lead analyst.

If the lead analyst is saying Ubekibekibekistan is a small island located 10,000 miles underneath Australia because that's the answer that makes them all feel better in defiance of all the maps, globes and common sense, that's still a bit of a problem Smiley: laugh

Even more so if, say, they all decide Ubekibekibekistan has weapons of mass destruction because they really wanted to hear that Ubekibekibekistan has weapons of mass destruction


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Three days without a Gbaji sighting. Poor guy must be curled up on the floor sucking his thumb and listening to his new favorite song.

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He must think we'll all forget how confident he was if he waits a week to come back. Smiley: lolSmiley: lolSmiley: lol
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#788 Nov 09 2012 at 1:49 AM Rating: Good
Seriously, you guys didn't know about Rachel before!? I know that technically she's a pundit, but I just have a really hard time seeing her as one. She has a Ph.D. in politics, which she earned at Oxford and she was a Rhodes scholar. Not only is she ridiculously smart, she's gracious. I've seen her interview conservatives before, she very rarely interrupts them, and she never ever yells or screams. I've been watching her show since she got it four years ago. I used to love watching her fill in for Olbermann when he still had a show. He actually was pretty important in helping her get her own show, so I gotta give him props for that, even if he's rather obnoxious.
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I know WHO she is. I just never bothered to pay attention to her or watch her show. I watch very, very little TV as it is and almost none of that is the news networks unless there's some major event going on.

Speaking of, CNN did a fantastic job on Tuesday night. I always laugh at their over the top gadgets and effects but they replaced the asinine "holograms" from 2008 for using the tech in an informative and wonky manner and it was great.
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If the lead analyst is saying Ubekibekibekistan is a small island located 10,000 miles underneath Australia because that's the answer that makes them all feel better in defiance of all the maps, globes and common sense, that's still a bit of a problem


You mean if the information gathering process was somehow politicized and people in power were told what they wanted to hear rather than an objective analysis? Perish the thought. Thank goodness THAT never happens in the Obama administration.
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#791 Nov 09 2012 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
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One of the very few folks in the pundit class with a solid education to back up her opinions. Unlike Oldermann, who often comes off sounding like a crazy drunk uncle, she frequently sounds more like a first grade teacher.


Not true. Cracked on O'Reilly:

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apparently he's not the anti-intellectual dimwit his enemies like to imagine. According to basically every list of surprising celebrity SAT scores on the Internet, O'Reilly put up a near perfect 1585 out of 1600 on his SATs, and his college career indicates a downright shocking level of intellectual curiosity. He graduated from Marist University with honors and went on to earn a masters degree from Boston University and a second masters from Harvard, before deciding to yell the F-word at teleprompters for a living.


Also, I think you're referring to Olbermann, who while may come across as a drunk uncle, enrolled in college at 16.

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O'Reilly has a segment on my morning radio program called the "Talking Points Memo" in which he sounds like an embittered Andy Rooney, going on about how America is falling apart because boys don't play pick-up games of stick ball in the alley any longer.
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It's been a while since I heard anyone use the term "shellacked."
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One of the very few folks in the pundit class with a solid education to back up her opinions. Unlike Oldermann, who often comes off sounding like a crazy drunk uncle, she frequently sounds more like a first grade teacher.


Not true. Cracked on O'Reilly:

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apparently he's not the anti-intellectual dimwit his enemies like to imagine. According to basically every list of surprising celebrity SAT scores on the Internet, O'Reilly put up a near perfect 1585 out of 1600 on his SATs, and his college career indicates a downright shocking level of intellectual curiosity. He graduated from Marist University with honors and went on to earn a masters degree from Boston University and a second masters from Harvard, before deciding to yell the F-word at teleprompters for a living.


Also, I think you're referring to Olbermann, who while may come across as a drunk uncle, enrolled in college at 16.


After watching the 90 minute debate between O'Reilly and Stewart, I realized that the guy is actually quite sharp. It seems like him being a complete angry *** is probably more for showmanship than actual irrationality. Anger sells for pundits; no one likes a calm, boring persona.

And that Maddow clip was awesome.

I'm amused at how many people (online) are saying Obama's reelection is calling God's wrath down on America. I mean, was Mitt Romney supposed to be some kind of spiritual glass dome that kept us from a rain of fire and brimstone? So many religious conservatives (mostly Evangelicals) seemed to say "I don't care about Romney's religion, I care about his policies" and now turn around and say him not getting elected is a sign of God's disfavor. I kinda roll my eyes and go "Uh, right..."
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Marist, huh? I guess we have more than just Rik Smits as a claim to fame!

Not that I have any affiliation with the college, but it's the local campus. That and Vassar.
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It seems like him being a complete angry *** is probably more for showmanship than actual irrationality. Anger sells for pundits; no one likes a calm, boring persona.


Eh, he did have that "DO IT LIVE." flip-out. I'm inclined to think that the anger is real.
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LockeColeMA wrote:
It seems like him being a complete angry *** is probably more for showmanship than actual irrationality. Anger sells for pundits; no one likes a calm, boring persona.


Eh, he did have that "DO IT LIVE." flip-out. I'm inclined to think that the anger is real.


That is unfair to him because I'm sure everyone has their freak out moment at least once in their life. Although I don't agree with him on varying issues, he is an intelligent person.
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It seems like him being a complete angry *** is probably more for showmanship than actual irrationality. Anger sells for pundits; no one likes a calm, boring persona.


Eh, he did have that "DO IT LIVE." flip-out. I'm inclined to think that the anger is real.


That is unfair to him because I'm sure everyone has their freak out moment at least once in their life. Although I don't agree with him on varying issues, he is an intelligent person.


Thats the thing...he really isn't. He is a parrot.
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#800 Nov 09 2012 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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It seems like him being a complete angry *** is probably more for showmanship than actual irrationality. Anger sells for pundits; no one likes a calm, boring persona.


Eh, he did have that "DO IT LIVE." flip-out. I'm inclined to think that the anger is real.


And for all his supposed intellect, he's given us two amazing memes in regard to his dismissal of modern science.

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It seems like him being a complete angry *** is probably more for showmanship than actual irrationality. Anger sells for pundits; no one likes a calm, boring persona.


Eh, he did have that "DO IT LIVE." flip-out. I'm inclined to think that the anger is real.


That is unfair to him because I'm sure everyone has their freak out moment at least once in their life. Although I don't agree with him on varying issues, he is an intelligent person.


Thats the thing...he really isn't. He is a parrot.


..... haha.. I keep forgetting that you're still new at this..
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