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#1 Oct 26 2012 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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East-coasters, batten down the hatches, Frankenstorm is coming.

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With a rare mix of three big merging weather systems over a densely populated region, experts predict at least $1 billion in damage.


Will anyone be taking out-of-the-ordinary precautions in preparation for this storm?

We'll pick up an extra can of gas for the generator, but that's about it.
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I don't know if I'm supposed to answer the OP or Thread Title.

No to special precautions since I live in the midwest.

I'll say "No" to the zombie question as well. Frankenstein's monster (pedant alert) had unique sentience that wasn't derived from his body parts and essentially a living being with complete normal organ functions rather than reanimated still-dead flesh. You could, for instance, cut his hand off and watch him bleed to death pretty quickly as opposed to shotgunning some zombie's arm off and just giving it a club to beat you with.
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We're going to be out in the middle of a cemetery, ready to kill them as soon as they rise.
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Just answer the question mister.

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I'll say "No" to the zombie question as well. Frankenstein's monster (pedant alert) had unique sentience that wasn't derived from his body parts and essentially a living being with complete normal organ functions rather than reanimated still-dead flesh.
I'm not letting him pee in my toilet.
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No, Frankenstein was a scientist.
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I'll say "No" to the zombie question as well. Frankenstein's monster (pedant alert) had unique sentience that wasn't derived from his body parts and essentially a living being with complete normal organ functions rather than reanimated still-dead flesh. You could, for instance, cut his hand off and watch him bleed to death pretty quickly as opposed to shotgunning some zombie's arm off and just giving it a club to beat you with.



The Frankenstein Monster is a formidable hand to hand combatant. While he has recieved no formal training, he has gained experience through more than a century of adventures. He is also something of an expert in the occult, having encountered a number of supernatural forces and beings throughout his existence.

Death however, is always transitory for a creature like Simon Garth. Years passed, and Simon once again rose from his grave. The amulet of Damballah that he had worn for so many years was gone, and he instinctively began seeking it out. His search brought him to New York City where he unwittingly discovered the amulet in the possession of Daily Bugle employee Glory Grant. The amulet was infused with the spirit of the villainess Calypso, who had possessed Glory and forced her to do her bidding. While seeking the amulet, the Zombie ran afoul of Spider-Man. The two fought, but he ultimately reclaimed the amulet and returned to a restless slumber.

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Storm path for this one looks weird. Seems like it's kinda hooking out back into the Atlantic, then swinging west specifically to wipe Delaware off the face of existence. My NJ -> NYC commute on Monday should be....err....interesting.

Here's the best tracking map I've seen. It'll be fun watching my impending demise approach in real time.

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Some of us have education beyond comic books.

Speaking of, the novel has the monster going back to Doc Frankenstein and demanding that he construct the monster a mate. Frankie destroys his half-formed female experiment, afraid that they'll cook up a whole passel of babies. I'd give sexual reproduction a check in the "Alive" column.

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Frahnkensteen.
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Does a Frahnkensteen hold as much beer as a Frankenstein? These are the critical questions for our age.
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I'm moving to NYC tomorrow, just in time to get **** by weather.

I suppose it doesn't matter. I'm moving there from Kansas, so I'm used to **** weather
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Storm path for this one looks weird. Seems like it's kinda hooking out back into the Atlantic, then swinging west specifically to wipe Delaware off the face of existence. My NJ -> NYC commute on Monday should be....err....interesting.

I'm scheduled to drive up into/through the Catskills on Monday for work. Last year, I was supposed to go to another Catskill town after Irene blew through, but that storm pretty much destroyed the town and all access to it. So this may be rather interesting for me...
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Technically Frankenstein's monster was a recombinant revenant.

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Technically Frankenstein's monster was a recombinant revenant.


Finally, someone provides an easy-to-understand, unbiased answer to the question.
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Revenants are just zombies driven by a purpose beyond "Brains..." or guarding evil temples in AD&D. They don't study Milton or dream of raising a bunch of babies in Argentina. But the primary difference is that the Monster is legitimately alive (needs to eat, sleep, breathe, can breed, etc) and not merely golem-esque animated dead tissue.
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You obviously need to hang around a better class of revenants.

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Some of us have education beyond comic books.

I don't read any comics, I just enjoy the ludicrous and inscrutable details of the wiki descriptions.

Edit: and needling you.


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You obviously need to hang around a better class of revenants.


A "better class"... I see...

Simply because he has been denied wealth beyond that necessary to reproduce his labour, you judge poor Yattlesnatch to be a lesser spook. Is that right, Samira? Is that justice?
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The world is not as I would wish it, Kavekk.

In a perfect world, all recombinant revenants would roam free, unmolested by bigots and able to fulfill their highest destinies. Alas, we live in a world of shotguns and angry mobs, unaccountably armed with pitchforks even in cities.
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Shotguns would be kind of a last resort weapon for me. Effective range isn't all that great, and while good for regular combatants, undead crowd control with one would be painfully ineffectual.
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The world is not as I would wish it, Kavekk.

In a perfect world, all recombinant revenants would roam free, unmolested by bigots and able to fulfill their highest destinies. Alas, we live in a world of shotguns and angry mobs, unaccountably armed with pitchforks even in cities.


You have to admire the way people keep the old traditions alive, even in the face of impracticable levels of adversity.

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Shotguns would be kind of a last resort weapon for me. Effective range isn't all that great, and while good for regular combatants, undead crowd control with one would be painfully ineffectual.


If Fallout New Vegas taught me anything, it's that shotguns are completely useless against everything.
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This storm has taught me that people on the east coast are not as prepared for bad weather as I thought. I work in a data entry/call center that's working for Home Depot. The place was going crazy today with people calling in wanting generators installed TODAY, haha. "Yeah, we'll get ole Fred right out there".
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The world is not as I would wish it, Kavekk.

In a perfect world, all recombinant revenants would roam free, unmolested by bigots and able to fulfill their highest destinies. Alas, we live in a world of shotguns and angry mobs, unaccountably armed with pitchforks even in cities.


You have to admire the way people keep the old traditions alive, even in the face of impracticable levels of adversity.

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Shotguns would be kind of a last resort weapon for me. Effective range isn't all that great, and while good for regular combatants, undead crowd control with one would be painfully ineffectual.


If Fallout New Vegas taught me anything, it's that shotguns are completely useless against everything.


Shotguns were useful for up close head shots. You could reliably take off a head if your Guns skill was reasonably high. Anything farther than about fifteen feet out though, and you'd be better of throwing the gun than shooting it.
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Revenants are just zombies driven by a purpose beyond "Brains..." or guarding evil temples in AD&D. They don't study Milton or dream of raising a bunch of babies in Argentina. But the primary difference is that the Monster is legitimately alive (needs to eat, sleep, breathe, can breed, etc) and not merely golem-esque animated dead tissue.


I thought revenants were non-corporeal, like ghosts?
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Wiki article says they can be visible ghosts or animated corpses. Because this debate also got me lost in wiki articles, it seems the primary difference between a large variety of monsters is their behavior and their origin.

Zombies generally refer to largely mindless, anonymous creatures--in most pop culture, zombies don't have personal connections to their targets.

Revenants, on the other hand, seem to rise specifically to target those who they were close with in life (though that's a later addition to the folklore).

Draugr (Norse for "ghost) are, ironically, animated corpses. But the concept is that they guard their own graves from robbers, as Norse burial send them into the afterlife with a great deal of wealth. Draugr would, on occasion, leave their crypts at night to attack the living (almost always leading to horrific killings), but it seems this was usually out of revenge or jealousy. But it doesn't necessarily say this is personal, like with the Revenant, but rather suggests that all Draugr end up loathing the living. They share the feature of an insatiable appetite (perhaps a symbol of their desire for life) with modern zombies.

There are WAY more, of course. Because many, many (if not most, or even all) cultures have legends of the dead returning. I just chose these because they are the ones I see most frequently in media.
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If Frankenstein is a revenant, where's his missile launcher?

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This storm has taught me that people on the east coast are not as prepared for bad weather as I thought. I work in a data entry/call center that's working for Home Depot. The place was going crazy today with people calling in wanting generators installed TODAY, haha. "Yeah, we'll get ole Fred right out there".


We told our biggest client over the summer they needed a diesel generator capable of at least 8 hours installed, because they have several hundred thousand dollars of IT equipment at this point, and last time they had a bad power outage it almost completely wrecked their brand new VMware cluster.

Generator was installed earlier this month. Smiley: nod Although our impact from this storm is unlikely to be more than a lot of rain, we're prepared!
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I'd been following this story with hope that the crew of this ship would be able to save her, but they're being evacuated as the vessel is taking on water

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Oh, and the power outage last night was fun, but since most of the household was asleep didn't really mess with anyone but me.

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Oh, and the power outage last night was fun, but since most of the household was asleep didn't really mess with anyone but me.

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We lost power about ten last night. It was still out when I came into work this morning. I didn't get to shower. I feel dirty.


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Not going to let an military armory go without power for any stretch of time. We got, you know, important work to do.

But mostly lots of guns and alarms.
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Didn't lose power at all, which is strange because hour house is all Swiss Family Robinson-style in the woods and we usually do lose it in any large storm.
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Our power only went out for about 5 minutes last night. We had some flooding in the basement, but able to pump most of the water up. What water is left is being soak up by the clement floor and fans are being used to dry the floor. Jonwin is cleaning up the mess left by the flooding now, having made sure to bring home extra trash bags from work Sunday.

We got some sleep between checking on basement and 3 cats. Our newest cat Bella, is being kept in my studio until they get use to each others scent, though at night we have her sleep with us, while locking the other 2 cats out of the bedroom. Most of the night, Bella had to stay alone in studio, as we slept down in the living room for safety. When around 5 am, we finally felt it was safe to sleep up in bedroom, Bella quickly settle down across my neck. Thankfully she is a very small calico, who like to wash my face for me and keep me warm.

We're stuck home, as Jonwin can't get to work due to flooding around the USS Constellation and Mayor closed roads to non emergency traffic. Hoping that tomorrow city life will be back to normal, as I been looking forward to going to Halloween party.
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Our power only went out for about 5 minutes last night. We had some flooding in the basement, but able to pump most of the water up. What water is left is being soak up by the clement floor and fans are being used to dry the floor. Jonwin is cleaning up the mess left by the flooding now, having made sure to bring home extra trash bags.


Glad you guys got off light. We lost power around 7 PM yesterday and are still out, but we were entertained with the soothing melody of every transformer in a 2 mile radius nearly exploding at the same time.

Edit: Just got power back around 4 PM. Smiley: yippee

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The power flickered a couple times here, but never went out. There is flooding for those silly enough to not live on a hill, I'm not one of them. The only real effect on me from this storm is that my copy of AC3 is sitting in a warehouse in Delaware instead of amusing me. It's a minor thing, especially compared to what others are going through, but if it hadn't happened I wouldn't have even noticed this storm.
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Thankfully, my power stayed on the whole time. Whew!
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Hurricane Party at my hotel in Boston. And by "party" I mean all hands on deck, working extra shifts, & staying in the hotel when not working.

So I pretty much just got off a 36 hour shift. The joys of being salaried in an industry where the business never closes...

Could be worse though, as our properties in NYC aren't having much fun.
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Hurricane Party at my hotel in Boston. And by "party" I mean all hands on deck, working extra shifts, & staying in the hotel when not working.

So I pretty much just got off a 36 hour shift. The joys of being salaried in an industry where the business never closes...

Could be worse though, as our properties in NYC aren't having much fun.


Maybe you should let a few hookers slide past; you know, stress relief for the overworked staff. Smiley: sly
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Hey I'm going to Boston on Monday, how are things?
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Just fine! PM me if you need a hotel room, I'm people who knows people.

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I only stop the hookers that are idiots. Ya know, the ones that aren't discreet, or solicit in the bar, or don't know the **** NAME of the person they're here to see, or if they've setup shop in the hotel for incalls. Or if I suspect they're hookers taking in calls & I can find their picture on backpages.com or they're "accepting appointments in Boston" on their personal **** star website. All of which I've done at one point or another.

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Ya know, the ones that aren't discreet, or solicit in the bar, or don't know the @#%^ing NAME of the person they're here to see,
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They usually don't even know their first names, if they even speak english. I found one wandering a floor once searching for a room we didn't have & no name once and was nice enough about getting her to leave & she broke down, slumped to the floor, & started wailing in Mandarin.

Another time, the girl couldn't get in without a key after hours, so she buzzed the intercom but didn't know the name on the room, so we couldn't let her in. Her madam called, I transferred her to the guest's room, & I guess he changed his mind so he called down & refused further calls. She called back, I informed her he refused her call (you can't dial direct to rooms without going through me), & she didn't take no for an answer.

She must of been a telemarketer on the side, as she proceeded to call bomb the hotel, tying up all of the lines going in, & literally frying our telephone system, which of course set of the fire alarm.

Good times.
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Just got power back. That was an annoying four days.
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We never lost power, but our furnace just quit out. Probably ran out of fuel. Smiley: disappointed
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I only stop the hookers that are idiots. Ya know, the ones that aren't discreet, or solicit in the bar, or don't know the @#%^ing NAME of the person they're here to see, or if they've setup shop in the hotel for incalls. Or if I suspect they're hookers taking in calls & I can find their picture on backpages.com or they're "accepting appointments in Boston" on their personal **** star website. All of which I've done at one point or another.


Things that Omega has done:

Wasn't discreet, solicited in the bar, didn't know the NAME of the person he was there to see, set up shop in the hotel for incalls, Took in calls, had his picture on backpages.com, and has "accepted appointments in Boston" on his personal **** star website! Smiley: lol
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I was a **** in my youth. Paid well, but the benefits sucked.

Wait, so the benefits sucked, and not you? Were you let go for not doing your job? Smiley: lol
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