I think Ryan put a lot more substance on the table than Biden, but that Biden did a good job attacking the substance Ryan put out there,
Oh please, did you even watch the debate, or even read a transcript of it? Ryan offered no substance, he offered talking points.
I said that he put a lot more on the table than Biden. Which he did.
**** the moderator asked him several times to elaborate of his points, key being points on the way they plan to pay for 5 trillion in new tax cuts.
Yes. The moderator asked for more detail of Ryan, and none of Biden. Think about that. Then think about how an objective moderator would ask a candidate to elaborate on how he's going to pay for a dollar amount of taxes which just happens to be the talking point of the Democrats right now, but which the GOP candidates have steadfastly argued is *not* an accurate number. It would be like if a moderator asked Biden how he's going to convince people to support his socialist agenda (using exactly that language). I'm sure you'd think that was a bit biased, right?
Saying Biden, has no record to run on, are you kidding me.
I didn't say Biden had no record. What he (and the president) don't have is a plan. I'm sorry, could you elaborate on the plan that he outlined during that debate? Because I saw him attacking the Romney/Ryan plan a whole lot, while failing to present an alternative at all. Now, to be fair, that often works in a debate since most people don't realize it at the time. But my point that Ryan put substance on the table while Biden didn't is absolutely correct. Ryans failure wasn't a lack of substance but that he failed to defend the substance he presented and failed to point out the lack of same from Biden.
If you believe the kid had substance you are delusional.
I'll ask again: What substance did Biden present at the debate? I have the thing DVR'd and have watched it a couple times. Biden did a great job distracting from the issues and tossing zingers out there. He did a crappy job telling people what he and Obama would do in a second term which might justify people putting their faith in them again. Saying "trust me" over and over tends to not actually make people want to trust you btw.
His performance was designed to appeal to the left wing. And it did. But as I said earlier, I don't think folks in the middle were that impressed with Biden. He was long on rhetoric and clever quips, but short on ideas and policy. Again though, this is the VP debate, so it's hard to say how much weight anyone puts in that. I do think that Ryan did a lot better job showing that he and Romney have ideas, while the current administration does not. And I think that's far more important than anything else.