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#1 Sep 10 2012 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know half the internet was down, but I was under the impression that it was related to a Go Daddy DNS issue, or some such other nonsensical tech-babble. Was ZAM's outtage related?

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#2 Sep 10 2012 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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I never lost access to Zam. I've been on all day, unless it went down for minutes. Or was this yesterday? I wasn't on as much yesterday.
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I never lost access to Zam. I've been on all day, unless it went down for minutes. Or was this yesterday? I wasn't on as much yesterday.


Hmm. I hadn't gotten past "sending request" at the site for hours. Probably unrelated, but it coincided some with this.

Edited, Sep 10th 2012 4:20pm by Eske
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I didn't notice a thing, then again I haven't really been on ZAM since last week so yeah.
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It just flickered on and off for me again, actually. Weirdness.
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#6 Sep 10 2012 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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A decent portion of my webpages are loading only text based HTML versions, zam.com included.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
I know half the internet was down, but I was under the impression that it was related to a Go Daddy DNS issue, or some such other nonsensical tech-babble. Was ZAM's outtage related?

Did somebody not feed Danica Patrick? Give her some wheat thins and get her back on the hamster wheel.

Wheat thins? I'll feed her my bratwurst.
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#8 Sep 10 2012 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
Maybe they were only blocking us...because I had an hour or so with no zam today as well. Kept trying to load the OOT (thats what I have set as my zam home page) and redirected to avg all day. (avg installed so my browser defaults to their search page)
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Maybe your computer is one of the zombie boxes being used to DDOS godaddy. Do you have a decent up to date antivirus and whatnot? Also are you behind a router, etc.
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In the past two days I've noticed my AV throwing up blocked urls when going to Wikipedia; could this be a part of whatever this problem is?
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I'm working on a new computer (5 days) with an up to date anti-virus, so I doubt it's my computer being a zombie box.
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I was getting the text form pages as well (with long timeouts involved). I did notice at one point that the bar at the bottom was saying it was connecting to facebook, while attempting to load the Zam main page (and stuck). Usually, that means that the ads are loading from some third party site and that site is borked up. Didn't spend any time debugging beyond "it's borked" though.
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Maybe your computer is one of the zombie boxes being used to DDOS godaddy. Do you have a decent up to date antivirus and whatnot? Also are you behind a router, etc.


I suppose it's possible. Was on my work comp; I'm sure our security is woeful.

Anyways, I'm sure it's something China orchestrated.

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Eh, good point. I suppose many of our ads came from Godaddy servers. That makes sense that it wasn't annoying the premium users.
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In the past two days I've noticed my AV throwing up blocked urls when going to Wikipedia; could this be a part of whatever this problem is?


No, that is not normal. It's symptomatic of those viruses that trigger when certain websites are accessed with a redirect. that or your AV is throwing a false positive for wikipedia for some reason. It seems to be fine for me though. You might want to do an updated malwarebytes scan on your computer from safemode to be safe though.
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#16 Sep 10 2012 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe your computer is one of the zombie boxes being used to DDOS godaddy. Do you have a decent up to date antivirus and whatnot? Also are you behind a router, etc.


Maybe and I only have avg, yes to behind a router .. I'll do scans

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Eh, good point. I suppose many of our ads came from Godaddy servers. That makes sense that it wasn't annoying the premium users.


I am a premium user though so the ad thing would not count..oh god time to deplore more security.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Maybe your computer is one of the zombie boxes being used to DDOS godaddy. Do you have a decent up to date antivirus and whatnot? Also are you behind a router, etc.


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Eh, good point. I suppose many of our ads came from Godaddy servers. That makes sense that it wasn't annoying the premium users.


I have premium, and I've accessed it from both my PC (whose security I'm fairly confident in) and my phone. Both from behind my router, and on Verizon's wireless network.

If it was flickering on and off, it's possible I was just never around for the down phases. Was on at least every couple of hours, though.
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So is there a reason I'm seeing a massive WoW add that seems half on one side of the screen and half on the other? The entire forum is squished into a little box in the middle now (that includes the banner space on the right side of that box, which makes it *really* tiny).
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The site was giving me issues yesterday, although not nearly as badly as many other sites, which simply weren't loading at all.

Other sites loaded fine with no issues.

If they got zombie control of this PC, they did it in the last four days because I just reinstalled Windows after formatting the hard drives on Saturday.
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So is there a reason I'm seeing a massive WoW add that seems half on one side of the screen and half on the other? The entire forum is squished into a little box in the middle now (that includes the banner space on the right side of that box, which makes it *really* tiny).

Because you have yet to right click on it and add the Zam forum skins to your AdBlock list.
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gbaji wrote:
So is there a reason I'm seeing a massive WoW add that seems half on one side of the screen and half on the other? The entire forum is squished into a little box in the middle now (that includes the banner space on the right side of that box, which makes it *really* tiny).

Because you have yet to right click on it and add the Zam forum skins to your AdBlock list.


Ok. But this just started happening literally in the last hour, and I don't think it's about skin, but forum layout (which I suppose one could argue is the same thing, but whatever).

Also, why am I getting a WoW ad, when I'm using the EQ theme? Just to be clear, it's not so much an ad as some new border that appears on the sides of what used to be the whole screen, taking up massive space in my web window. And it doesn't look right at that. The right side has what looks like the left half of something, and the left side has the right half of it. The logo for WoW is split in half along the side boundaries of the page. So like 09. and half a 2 runs up to the right border of my window, and a 5.12 starts out on the left border.

It's not just taking up space, but is pretty dorked as well.

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I've no idea. But I had the same thing happen 10 minutes or so ago and AdBlocked it into oblivion.

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gbaji wrote:
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So is there a reason I'm seeing a massive WoW add that seems half on one side of the screen and half on the other? The entire forum is squished into a little box in the middle now (that includes the banner space on the right side of that box, which makes it *really* tiny).

Because you have yet to right click on it and add the Zam forum skins to your AdBlock list.


Ok. But this just started happening literally in the last hour, and I don't think it's about skin, but forum layout (which I suppose one could argue is the same thing, but whatever).

Also, why am I getting a WoW ad, when I'm using the EQ theme? Just to be clear, it's not so much an ad as some new border that appears on the sides of what used to be the whole screen, taking up massive space in my web window. And it doesn't look right at that. The right side has what looks like the left half of something, and the left side has the right half of it. The logo for WoW is split in half along the side boundaries of the page. So like 09. and half a 2 runs up to the right border of my window, and a 5.12 starts out on the left border.

It's not just taking up space, but is pretty dorked as well.


It's a graphic that wraps around the center container. It's fully visible at 1680x1050. Even at a lesser resolution, it should be pretty clear what it is.
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I get what it is. I'm just curious why it's there. And yes, I get that it's an advertisement for a new WoW expansion. My point is the positioning of the graphic takes up a ridiculous amount of real estate in my web browser. Doubly silly when I'm reading even a semi long page, since the graphic only goes down about one page, so the whole way down I've got like a 2 inch black border around what used to be the entire screen just a few hours ago.

I don't mind ads in a box on the side or the top. But to have an ad for the Pandaria expansion at the top, then two largish ad columns on each side of the center frame with more Pandaria pics, and then *another* random add box on the right side of that center frame is pretty darn ridiculous. Literally (and I'm not meaning figuratively here), half of the horizontal space in my web browser is being taken up with ads.

****. Put it in the normal ad box if you're that concerned about revenue. Have it in there when on a main screen, with a random ad when inside a thread. Whatever. Just don't double stack them like that (triple stacked really).
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Those are new "Internal ad skins". Marketing decided to implement them.
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#28 Sep 11 2012 at 11:58 PM Rating: Good
Huh. Zero issues regarding this. Win7/Firefox/Premium User. No adblock. AVG.
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Wait, what?
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Those are new "Internal ad skins". Marketing decided to implement them.


Marketing needs to have their heads examined then. I normally refrain from blocking ads from this site because I know that's how you get revenue (and I don't pay premium, so I figure that's fair). Ad block doesn't get rid of the issue (just replaces it with a fully black border), but I'll be blocking all ads on this site until the side borders are eliminated. It makes the site ugly as sin (And I get a sad face every time I see the plea to white list the site), but it's ugly as sin right now anyway.

WTF were they thinking? Some of us like to resize our windows in order to make the space with the words in it (the part we actually use) more visible. Now, you're eating up that space with a big ol black border. For no reason at all. I can make the border disappear if I narrow the width of my window, so it's not like you're forcing me to see the ads. You're just forcing me to view the site in a smaller window frame than I'd like.
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WTF were they thinking? Some of us like to resize our windows in order to make the space with the words in it (the part we actually use) more visible.


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WTF were they thinking? Some of us like to resize our windows in order to make the space with the words in it (the part we actually use) more visible.


CTRL + PlusKey


Which changes the resolution/font, not the relative viewable size of the frame. I want to see more stuff on the screen. Given my typing style, it should be obvious why. Smiley: tongue
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Christ you're whiny.



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Meh, the day they fucked with the forum layout in order to cram in more ads was the day they reneged on their promise that premium users wouldn't be affected by advertisements and I knew it was time to give up paying for the site. Now they just get AdBlocked and Grease Monkey'd into something sort of resembling what I used to pay for.
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I'm still confused about what they think they're accomplishing, other than annoying people.

If I set my window size to 986 pixels wide, I see no black border or Wow images. The Frame with the usual forum stuff completely fills the window. No scroll bar either. If I extend it any wider than that, all of that extra width is taken up with black borders on the right and left. So I extend it to 1600 pixels, and I've got the exact same sized forum frame floating between 3 inch wide black borders on each side.

I can't figure out what possible marketing advantage they think this gives them. Anyone who doesn't want to see the ads can eliminate them by shrinking the width of the window without shrinking their visible/usable forum space at all. All it really accomplishes is ******* off people who'd like to view the forum in a wider format. I have absolutely no reason to leave my window sized wider just to see the ad, do I? And neither does anyone else. So no ad being viewed, but ****** off customers equal really really really stupid marketing.

And on top of that, no ad revenue for the normal banners that they might otherwise be getting. Please tell me this is a temporary thing.
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Should've let your wombats vote as well.
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I'm still confused about what they think they're accomplishing
Advertising to people. More people are like me than you when it comes to computer skills so most aren't adjusting their screens.
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Please tell me this is a temporary thing.

It isn't. Apperently part of the justification is that only 20% of non premium users ever even see the existing ads because of adblock.
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What are we talking about, anyway?
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Please tell me this is a temporary thing.
It isn't. Apperently part of the justification is that only 20% of non premium users ever even see the existing ads because of adblock.

So rather than working to attract more paying premium users, the answer is to push more of the non-premium users towards finding ways to block the intrusive ads.

Makes sense.
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#44 Sep 13 2012 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
In my template the forum takes up pretty much the whole width of the window. How does it look for you Joph? I've given you premium for a couple days.

resolution 1366x768. I don't have a bigger monitor where I am right now, and I don't recall if the forum grows or not.

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I'm at work right now but at 1280x1024 square screen resolution it looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/oLxpm.jpg

I'd have to see how it looks on the wide screen at home.
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1366x768 and the template takes up the whole width, yes.
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1920x1080 and the template takes up about 60% of the width of my screen.
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#48 Sep 13 2012 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm at work right now but at 1280x1024 square screen resolution it looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/oLxpm.jpg

I'd have to see how it looks on the wide screen at home.

Looks like zam.com sucks vs the wow.allakhazam.com template.

Wow, yeah, that's terrible.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1347307664270135743&p=1#48


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WOW template looks a lot nicer and comes close to the borders for me. Again, I'd have to check it on a wide screen.

Edited, Sep 13th 2012 12:44pm by Jophiel
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I use the TOR template. By far the most pleasant of the options, imo.
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WOW template looks a lot nicer and comes close to the borders for me. Again, I'd have to check it on a wide screen.

Edited, Sep 13th 2012 12:44pm by Jophiel
This is what WoW skin looks like on widescreen:
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