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#27 Aug 20 2012 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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The second dietary change I made was reducing added salt. It's like people say about quitting smoking - after you get over the hump, food tastes so much better.
One of the key things here for those not used to cooking for themselves is to look at ingredients on seasoning blends if you use them. Many, if not most, seasoning blends that you buy will have salt already in them. I can't tell you how many people I know who will use one of those and add salt while cooking, and then add more salt when eating.

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Spoonless, I'd like to put forth something for consideration. The best way to deal with beer might be simply to not buy any. I think people put too much emphasis on willpower on not enough on working with basic impulses. IF you keep something in your refrigerator or pantry, you're probably going to eat it. The more accessible a food item is the more likely you are to consume it.
While it might work for some people, and for me with other cravings, alcohol is just too accessible outside the house for this to really work. I work directly next door to a liquor store, and live across the street from another one. Attempting to cut it completely out would likely lead to a binge event after a bad day or whatever, which will be harder to recover from than if I incorporate a moderate amount into my diet. There's a great store with a massive craft beer selection that lets you buy individual bottles. They're next to the market I usually go to, so I'm thinking that on days I go to the market to buy food for dinner, I can go next door and buy one beer. This acts to satisfy my desire for beer as well as reward myself for going to the market instead of stopping at one of the fast food joints on the way home.

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Good Luck Fatties. Wish I could get my son interested in some weight loss program.

I'm trying to cut down on coffee. I drink a lot of it and I drink dark roasts and i think my stomach would be happier if I moderated things a bit.

I bought a tea ball and have picked up some various tea components and even dried some of my own stuff. Now I have to actually substitute it in - or not. Tea is very watery compared to coffee. Maybe I should just drink water instead.

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#29 Aug 20 2012 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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I'm diabetic and therefore avoid sugar and often have artificial sweeteners and I have never found a piece of fruit to taste less sweet since. Actually, they taste better since they're predominantly, the only direct sugar I eat.
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#30 Aug 20 2012 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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Any tips on how to motivate yourself to hit the gym after putting in a hard day at the office?


Any possibility of squeezing it in before work? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised at the energy boost you get through the rest of your day, and then you get it over with before you're even awake!



Mmmm, it would be tough. I wake up at 5:30 already; getting up an hour earlier would probably kill me (unless I went to bed at like 9:30 at night). I might try it though, see if that helps. Thanks!
I'm with Guenny on this one. While it's tough to get into the routine of getting up earlier, it does provide a good energy boost to the rest of the day (once you adjust). If you're like me when you're going to the gym, you'll actually find yourself needing less sleep.

Woke up this morning; didn't hit the gym (it was locked and I don't remember the passcode for the door >_>), but I did take a good 45-minute walk around the neighborhood. Definitely feeling more awake than usual. I'll need to see how tired I am tonight and tomorrow, but it's not a bad change so far.


I work out after work.

What really helped me was finding a place that I really liked. I have trouble self-motivating for workouts as is, so any barrier to entry makes things really difficult. It's super beneficial to have a place that I enjoy going to.

That mostly relates to the people there. I think it's important to meet people at the gym, so that you have some regulars you can talk to. You dread the gym a lot less when you know that you can pal around with people there. The people I train with joke around a lot, and it really makes things easier. And it's nice to have people who will ask "So, where were you yesterday?" to keep you on track. We push each other a lot.

Ditto for our trainers. They're good dudes, and they keep everyone motivated, which I really need.

Also, I find that it's a lot easier to work out if I'm doing an activity/sport. Running is basically the worst thing ever. MMA has been great for giving me a full workout without allowing my brain to focus on the working out, though we also do strength and conditioning & such, too.
#31 Aug 20 2012 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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I can't stand treadmills. I have to resort to one when it really snows around here, and I just can't get over the fact I'm doing all that work and not getting anywhere. Also, the halfway point of my jog is a small deli, where I grab a coffee before heading back so a treadmill really lacks that motivation.
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#32 Aug 20 2012 at 8:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't stand treadmills. I have to resort to one when it really snows around here, and I just can't get over the fact I'm doing all that work and not getting anywhere. Also, the halfway point of my jog is a small deli, where I grab a coffee before heading back so a treadmill really lacks that motivation.


You could rig a simple gear system that makes the treadmill gradually lower a coffee down from the ceiling, so that it comes within reach at your halfway point.

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I can't stand treadmills. I have to resort to one when it really snows around here, and I just can't get over the fact I'm doing all that work and not getting anywhere. Also, the halfway point of my jog is a small deli, where I grab a coffee before heading back so a treadmill really lacks that motivation.

You can jog and drink coffee?
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#34 Aug 20 2012 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I can't stand treadmills. I have to resort to one when it really snows around here, and I just can't get over the fact I'm doing all that work and not getting anywhere. Also, the halfway point of my jog is a small deli, where I grab a coffee before heading back so a treadmill really lacks that motivation.

You can jog and drink coffee?


I'm sure he puts it in his camelback.
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I can't stand treadmills. I have to resort to one when it really snows around here, and I just can't get over the fact I'm doing all that work and not getting anywhere. Also, the halfway point of my jog is a small deli, where I grab a coffee before heading back so a treadmill really lacks that motivation.


You could rig a simple gear system that makes the treadmill gradually lower a coffee down from the ceiling, so that it comes within reach at your halfway point.

Smiley: schooled

Or hook up the treadmill to power the coffee pot.

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Eske Esquire wrote:
I'm sure he puts it in his camelback.
Water bottle specifically designed for jogging. Smiley: schooled
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#37 Aug 20 2012 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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I recently started a lifestyle change myself. I'm currently 6' 3.5" and tipping the scales at right around 440 lbs. I've decided that it's high time I get myself into shape, seeing as I have a 3 yr old son who's only going to want me to do more things with him as he gets older. I'm looking to eventually get down to 240 lbs by losing a lot of fat and adding some upper body muscle.

I've started walking a half a mile every night that it doesn't rain (which unfortunately hasn't been often lately) and I've seriously changed my eating habits. Last week alone I had a salad for lunch twice and didn't eat Taco Bell a single time. The only problem I see myself having is that I can't find a home scale that will weight me, so I'm not going to get the benefit of the morale boosts that seeing the weight loss gives you until I get under 400 lbs.
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#38 Aug 20 2012 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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I recently started a lifestyle change myself. I'm currently 6' 3.5" and tipping the scales at right around 440 lbs. I've decided that it's high time I get myself into shape, seeing as I have a 3 yr old son who's only going to want me to do more things with him as he gets older. I'm looking to eventually get down to 240 lbs by losing a lot of fat and adding some upper body muscle.

I've started walking a half a mile every night that it doesn't rain (which unfortunately hasn't been often lately) and I've seriously changed my eating habits. Last week alone I had a salad for lunch twice and didn't eat Taco Bell a single time. The only problem I see myself having is that I can't find a home scale that will weight me, so I'm not going to get the benefit of the morale boosts that seeing the weight loss gives you until I get under 400 lbs.

Get a raincoat and/or umbrella. Don't let excuses stop you from walking.




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#39 Aug 20 2012 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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Spoonless wrote:
Allegory wrote:
Spoonless, I'd like to put forth something for consideration. The best way to deal with beer might be simply to not buy any. I think people put too much emphasis on willpower on not enough on working with basic impulses. IF you keep something in your refrigerator or pantry, you're probably going to eat it. The more accessible a food item is the more likely you are to consume it.
While it might work for some people, and for me with other cravings, alcohol is just too accessible outside the house for this to really work. I work directly next door to a liquor store, and live across the street from another one. Attempting to cut it completely out would likely lead to a binge event after a bad day or whatever, which will be harder to recover from than if I incorporate a moderate amount into my diet. There's a great store with a massive craft beer selection that lets you buy individual bottles. They're next to the market I usually go to, so I'm thinking that on days I go to the market to buy food for dinner, I can go next door and buy one beer. This acts to satisfy my desire for beer as well as reward myself for going to the market instead of stopping at one of the fast food joints on the way home.


It doesn't sound like you really have an alcohol problem though, Spoonless. I think the "just don't buy it except on special occasions" advice is for people who tend to binge drink more (like I'm assuming Allegory might?) You just have the habit of downing beer as a beverage, not so much as an intoxicant. I think your limit to one or two, and a few more on the weekends, is perfectly reasonable and still a fraction of what you say you're drinking now. In fact, 1-2 alcoholic drinks per day are usually good for the average person. Better than stress.

As far as beverages go, I'd recommend to everyone (well, maybe as the weather cools back down) to try brewed tea. We tried to switch from soda/coffee to tea at the beginning of the year when we quit smoking, but caffeine was too important and hard to give up for both of us at the same time as the nicotine. Also, the espresso machine at work was my nemesis. However, hot brewed tea (even iced) can be so satisfying... 10$/4oz is a little pricey, but when you average that out over the cost of a case of soda you're saving yourself money even by drinking high quality tea.

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What really helped me was finding a place that I really liked. I have trouble self-motivating for workouts as is, so any barrier to entry makes things really difficult. It's super beneficial to have a place that I enjoy going to.


When I used to work out, I had a membership at the Y, which meant I could go to any of 3-4 buildings in a 10 mile radius. It really helped keep things more interesting, when it'd be more of my decision. "Should I go to the giant downtown Y, or the brand new one on the west side?"
#40 Aug 20 2012 at 8:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Spoonless, I'd like to put forth something for consideration. The best way to deal with beer might be simply to not buy any. I think people put too much emphasis on willpower on not enough on working with basic impulses. IF you keep something in your refrigerator or pantry, you're probably going to eat it. The more accessible a food item is the more likely you are to consume it.

Except for parties and the holidays, I don't buy soda or alcohol. Since I don't have them available on a daily basis I don't drink either on a daily basis. What are the worst food items in your house, why are they there, and do you really need them?

This is basically my method for beer. I don't buy cases of beer ever, because if they're sitting in my fridge, then I'm very likely to drink one or two. What I do is occasionally when I feel like a beer, I go down to the liquor store and buy one or two specialty beers. Then I just drink that. Making it an entire trip means that you won't be drinking nearly as often.

I've wavered between 180-190 for the past few years, going down to 175 when I do something like train for a half marathon, but the fitness goes away pretty quickly. My goal is to decrease my weight a bit, but my bigger focus is to increase my overall fitness level, as my weight is decent for 5'11". I've been biking everywhere instead of using a car if at all possible this summer, and I've outfitted a winter bike now, so hopefully that helps me with fitness in winter, an area I've always struggled with.
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#41 Aug 20 2012 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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As far as beverages go, I'd recommend to everyone (well, maybe as the weather cools back down) to try brewed tea. We tried to switch from soda/coffee to tea at the beginning of the year when we quit smoking, but caffeine was too important and hard to give up for both of us at the same time as the nicotine. Also, the espresso machine at work was my nemesis. However, hot brewed tea (even iced) can be so satisfying... 10$/4oz is a little pricey, but when you average that out over the cost of a case of soda you're saving yourself money even by drinking high quality tea.
I see a few people talking about cutting out coffee. Is coffee inherently bad, or is it the cream and sugar that make it so? I probably drink at least a half-pot of coffee every day, but I drink it black. I'd hate to have to give up another of my favorite things. Smiley: lol
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#42 Aug 20 2012 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
Coffee in moderation is fine, but can be bad if you drink a lot. I limit myself to two cups a day. It can spike blood pressure a bit, although I don't believe it has any lasting effect in that area.

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#43 Aug 20 2012 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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Black coffee is just 5 calories per cup.
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#44 Aug 20 2012 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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I've started walking a half a mile every night that it doesn't rain (which unfortunately hasn't been often lately) and I've seriously changed my eating habits. Last week alone I had a salad for lunch twice and didn't eat Taco Bell a single time. The only problem I see myself having is that I can't find a home scale that will weight me, so I'm not going to get the benefit of the morale boosts that seeing the weight loss gives you until I get under 400 lbs.


The number is next to meaningless. You know you're doing better, that's all that matters. I think the morale boost of just getting to under 400 should carry you pretty far. Good luck to you and your boy - by choosing him over food, you're putting him first in your life, which I think is the most important life lesson you can teach your child. Whenever you make children feel like something is more important than they are - work, money, food, booze - they learn that x item > people. You are teaching him that people are worth sacrifice and hard work. Kudos.
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As far as beverages go, I'd recommend to everyone (well, maybe as the weather cools back down) to try brewed tea. We tried to switch from soda/coffee to tea at the beginning of the year when we quit smoking, but caffeine was too important and hard to give up for both of us at the same time as the nicotine. Also, the espresso machine at work was my nemesis. However, hot brewed tea (even iced) can be so satisfying... 10$/4oz is a little pricey, but when you average that out over the cost of a case of soda you're saving yourself money even by drinking high quality tea.
I see a few people talking about cutting out coffee. Is coffee inherently bad, or is it the cream and sugar that make it so? I probably drink at least a half-pot of coffee every day, but I drink it black. I'd hate to have to give up another of my favorite things. Smiley: lol

It's pretty acidic and a diuretic, and of course the caffeine is addicting.




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Spoonless wrote:
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As far as beverages go, I'd recommend to everyone (well, maybe as the weather cools back down) to try brewed tea. We tried to switch from soda/coffee to tea at the beginning of the year when we quit smoking, but caffeine was too important and hard to give up for both of us at the same time as the nicotine. Also, the espresso machine at work was my nemesis. However, hot brewed tea (even iced) can be so satisfying... 10$/4oz is a little pricey, but when you average that out over the cost of a case of soda you're saving yourself money even by drinking high quality tea.
I see a few people talking about cutting out coffee. Is coffee inherently bad, or is it the cream and sugar that make it so? I probably drink at least a half-pot of coffee every day, but I drink it black. I'd hate to have to give up another of my favorite things. Smiley: lol


The caffeine is bad - I've heard miracle stories about people who give it up and their whole body clock resets and fatigue pretty much disappears. It's not something that's debilitating, that's for sure, but as I started cutting chemicals at of my diet caffeine was on the top of the list. Unfortunately, I've been drinking caffeinated coffee for literally as long as I can remember, probably 4 years old, and I have a cup with soy milk and sugar right now.

Really, if you're going to intake caffeine, black coffee is by far the best option (I guess, second to tea). It's just another chemical dependency that are bodies are designed to function better without (on a daily basis).
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It's pretty acidic and a diuretic, and of course the caffeine is addicting.
Caffeine is also a stimulant that can pump up your metabolism, which in turn helps burn calories, which is good for weight loss, which is the goal.
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#48 Aug 20 2012 at 8:51 AM Rating: Excellent
I've cut caffeine out of my diet for a few months from time to time, and never really noticed any effect beyond that I didn't have something hot to drink in the morning, which I missed. Most people get really bad headaches for the first while though.
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It's pretty acidic and a diuretic, and of course the caffeine is addicting.
Caffeine is also a stimulant that can pump up your metabolism, which in turn helps burn calories, which is good for weight loss, which is the goal.

Coffee (I drink it strong and black) is one of the things I moderate when heartburn gets bad (as well as fried foods, spicy foods and citrus fruits).

You'll all get heartburn - just wait. Smiley: tongue
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Meh, when you drink every day the effects are definitely diminished. Not to mention, caffeine puts constant stress on your adrenal glands, which isn't conducive to a physical lifestyle. It's not terrible, but you do have to understand that's it's a completely artificial energy boost, and it's way better in moderation (maybe a few cups a week, when you 'really' need it) than as a crutch.

Now, the withdrawal from caffeine addiction can be a total ***** - I quit once, and had a migraine for 3 weeks solid. As it is now, when I near the 24hr mark, I start getting that tension in my neck and temples, and if I abstain it's inevitable.

It's not as simple as, "caffeine boosts your metabolism and helps you lose weight!" Tell that to the people in this thread who drink 250oz of diet soda a day and still weigh 400+ pounds.
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Tell that to the people in this thread who drink 250oz of diet soda a day and still weigh 400+ pounds.
If you're drinking diet soda and nothing else in your diet or your routine changes what do you expect? Caffeine isn't some magic bullet, and eliminating it isn't going to just make the problems vanish. I'm not saying get an IV of Folgers attached to your carotid artery, but a cup or two a day of just black coffee is gonna do more good than bad provided the rest of your routine changes as well. More exercise and carefully watching your calorie intake. Eliminating something that really doesn't hurt is just more stress that will make everything else that much tougher.
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