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#202 Sep 20 2012 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Aww, no super fancy beers? Smiley: frown

And $8.50 for a sixpack of tall boys still isn't a bad price. Not great but not bad either.
Luckily I can still get Narragansett Lager for $4.50 per sixpack of tallboys. Smiley: lol

No real fancy beers recently. I have to make a trip to MA soon to grab some Dogfish Head Punkin. They stopped distribution to RI a while back, and I'm really sad I have to drive a whole 15 minutes if I want some of their brews, especially since their 90-minute IPA was my go-to IPA. It wouldn't be so noticeable if the liquor store closest to me didn't have a massive craft brew section.
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#203 Sep 20 2012 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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I've seen a bottle of 90 minute exactly once. It was €14. You have no reason to complain.
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#204 Sep 20 2012 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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I've seen a bottle of 90 minute exactly once. It was €14. You have no reason to complain.
Smiley: lol I think the single bottles of the 120-minute go for around $8 or $9. The 90-minute is around $10.50 for a 4-pack, and the 60-minute is around $10.50 for a 6-pack.
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DFH does not make it across the ocean. Pliny the Elder is easier to get for me than any DFH brew (still ridiculously expensive, but available).
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Yeah, they stopped distributing to RI because they couldn't keep up with the overall demand, and were as big as they wanted to be, from what I remember. Instead of expanding the company and whatnot, they cut back some distribution areas. So, I'm not totally surprised they're not shipping overseas.

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I think it's simply because demand is growing so much faster than their ability to increase production. Same thing for Russian River, Three Floyds and a couple others.

Still, I'm not complaining. My local backwater middle of nowhere bottleshop just added a bunch of Flying Dog beers to their repertoire and I can get stuff like Westvleteren, Fantome, Cantillon etc fairly easily whenever I feel like it so It's not like I'm lacking choice. And I do have a bottle of KBS waiting for the right moment (Yay American tourists and trading beer).
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#208 Sep 21 2012 at 6:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, I don't know what it is about coconut water and hydration, but it just works for me.

Coconut water is weird. Probably doesn't help that I added iron water to it. I think it's one of the things it will take a little time to get used to, so I'm going to try it out see if it helps with my hydration levels. They've also got a coconut water with added pineapple, so I might see what that is like. Thanks for the suggestion, probably not something I'd have tried by myself.

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#209 Sep 21 2012 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Ugh. I can't stand the taste of coconut. Due to my lactose intolerance I tried switching to coconut milk but it was disgusting. Now I'm rocking the vanilla almond milk. Fucking great for making White Russians.
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Rice milk is REALLY good on cereals. It is naturally sweet.

Coconut water tasted really nasty to me the first time I tried it, but I couldn't believe how good it made my mouth feel. After being on it a couple of weeks, it still tasted nasty, but my body had this Pavlovian joy - almost euphoria - as soon as that nasty taste hit my palate. After a couple of months the euphoria wore off, but coconut water started tasting really sweet to me, and not bad tasting at all.

Edit, oh yeah, coconut milk is sickening as **** to drink a glass of. It's waaaaaaay too rich. Made me ill.

Edited, Sep 21st 2012 12:39pm by Aripyanfar
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I was surprised to find that soy milk tastes perfectly fine to me. I'm not usually one for that sort of stuff. It's a little different, but not in a bad way.

Dunno about coconut milk, but I can definitely say that coconut water is pretty gross. And I like coconut.

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I refuse to take part in this ruse. It's coconut juice, not milk.
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I refuse to take part in this ruse. It's coconut juice, not milk.
It would be easier to just add a nipple to the coconut than to change the name of coconut milk.

Soy milk and rice milk on the other hand have no business claiming any relation to the mammary gland what-so-ever.
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#214 Sep 21 2012 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, that's not true. A soy milk latte still gets a little foamy, and honestly, was the nail in the coffin for switching to full vegan. Although I spent the whole summer drinking hot coffee because I can't do cold coffee with soy milk yet. Or lukewarm. It has to be hot.

Really, almost all cereal tastes better with any milk (rice/soy/coconut) other than cow's milk, and it doesn't make you sick to your stomach after eating it.
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Sorry yuck, that may be true for you but I absolutely cannot stand having cereal without real milk on it. It's cool you like it, but saying "it tastes better" like it is an empirical fact is inaccurate. It tastes better to you? Sure. But to me it tastes terrible.

Also, while soy milk may be lower in fat or w/e - there is a lot of evidence suggesting that a diet heavy in soy can have a lot of negative effects. I'm not enough of an expert to say whether those impacts are worse than the impact of a diet with animal fat in it - but for myself, I tend to believe it is better to eat a lot of different things in moderation than to load up on soy protein.

I like tofu a lot, so I'm actually quite glad I don't like soy milk, because I can enjoy reasonable amounts of tofu without as much worry about overdoing the soy (although given the amount of soy in almost everything, I still may be ingesting too much of it).

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I'm not enough of an expert to say whether those impacts are worse than the impact of a diet with animal fat in it


They're not.
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208.2 lbs (either I worked it out wrong or the converter I used rounded up wrong, but this was my actual weight last week), 44% body fat

207.8 lbs, 43.8% body fat.
Still haven't fixed my bike.
The coconut water is definitely growing on me, only been a few days and I'm already looking forward to my daily glass.

Been keeping up calorie tracking with the app, I think it's going to be useful in helping me make better food choices as it gives a lot more information than just calorie watching so I can make more of an effort to make sure I'm getting the right amount of nutrients and so on.
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and it doesn't make you sick to your stomach after eating it.
A lot of things make me sick to my stomach after eating them. Milk is not one of them.
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#219 Sep 24 2012 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
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Milk settles my tummy. It's my preferred beverage with normal dinners (wine with special dinners).

My dad used to make us eat milk-toast (a piece of toast soaked in warm milk) when we'd have tummy aches as kids. That was kind of gross, but not so bad as milk of magnesia.
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208.2 lbs (either I worked it out wrong or the converter I used rounded up wrong, but this was my actual weight last week), 44% body fat

207.8 lbs, 43.8% body fat.
Still haven't fixed my bike.
The coconut water is definitely growing on me, only been a few days and I'm already looking forward to my daily glass.

Been keeping up calorie tracking with the app, I think it's going to be useful in helping me make better food choices as it gives a lot more information than just calorie watching so I can make more of an effort to make sure I'm getting the right amount of nutrients and so on.
What's wrong with the bike?
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doesn't make you sick to your stomach after eating it.

Just because you're genetically inferior...
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Something to do with the gears, the chain was falling off if I tried having it on the first or second gear at the front. Tried adjusting the derailleur but couldn't find anywhere that didn't end up in the chain scraping on it. I think the largest gear might have a few bent teeth, so need to check for that. Also, the gear wire broke, I bought a new one but still need to fix it. It will most likely end with me taking it to a shop to get fixed, but I'm going to try and sort it myself first, just need to stop being lazy.
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Don't make me go off on milk, now. You can't really defend drinking something that's meant to grow an already human-sized baby calf into a 2000lb+ bull in a fatty thread.
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Don't make me go off on milk, now. You can't really defend drinking something that's meant to grow an already human-sized baby calf into a 2000lb+ bull in a fatty thread.
Um, one word.....

ICE CREAM!! Smiley: yippee


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Yeah sorry Guenny but you're ignoring the fact that the milk people drink is nothing like the milk that comes right out of the cow for the most part.

Besides that, at least for myself I don't use milk as a bevy, I use 2% milk as a condiment for coffee and tea, and occasionally on cereal (like 2-3 times a month)

While cutting out milk might be the right decision for some people (depending on how much they consume/their tolerance etc) for many/most people it wouldn't make much if any difference, I know it wouldn't for me.

I consume far more calories from eating sweets than having milk in my coffee - so it makes way more sense for me to cut down those completely empty calories than to cut out something that isn't, in moderate quantities, unhealthy, and that brings me a lot of joy. (I cut sugar out of my coffee but cutting out milk is a non-starter.)

In my humble opinion its a lot more sensible to ease people into making some simple changes to their diet that can cut calories than it is to be an extremist about things. Over time a lot of small changes can make a big difference (cutting the sugar out of my coffee left me feeling way better).

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Don't make me go off on milk, now. You can't really defend drinking something that's meant to grow an already human-sized baby calf into a 2000lb+ bull in a fatty thread.
Damn, guess I got 1750+ pounds to go, then. BRB BUYING MILK
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I replaced the sugar and milk in my coffee with whiskey, and then I replaced the coffee in my coffee with whiskey.
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Really, I was just gloating about my northeastern European genes that allow me to consume milk well into adulthood without dire digestive consequences.
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Besides that, at least for myself I don't use milk as a bevy, I use 2% milk as a condiment for coffee and tea, and occasionally on cereal (like 2-3 times a month)

While cutting out milk might be the right decision for some people (depending on how much they consume/their tolerance etc) for many/most people it wouldn't make much if any difference, I know it wouldn't for me.

I consume far more calories from eating sweets than having milk in my coffee - so it makes way more sense for me to cut down those completely empty calories than to cut out something that isn't, in moderate quantities, unhealthy, and that brings me a lot of joy. (I cut sugar out of my coffee but cutting out milk is a non-starter.)


Trolling aside, everything in moderation is really the point. If you have 2oz of a milk a day in your coffee, that's minimal and is definitely not what is making you fat. But when you factor in the "sweets" (pastries? butter? cream?) that's more cow fat. Then you factor in all the eggs. That's chicken fat. Then on top of all that, the empty sugar calories, and the fatty meats, all that **** adds up. Quibbling over milk in your coffee or the occasional bowl of cereal is moot. I'm saying, from my experience, even pre-veganism, I found soy milk/rice milk/almond milk to be a very good substitute in many cereals, and they make soy/coconut/almond creamer to put in coffee, which is definitely a decent substitute.

It's trying those substitutes and finding things that work for you that help you cut out calories that you have an emotional dependance on, because you can create that same emotional connection with something that tastes almost just the same, without slowly killing yourself in the process.
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I ate like 16 chocolate chip cookies yesterday. Smiley: frown
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I ate like 16 chocolate chip cookies yesterday. Smiley: frown


I've heard that if you stick a toothbrush far enough in the back of your throat, it's magic diet tiemz.
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I won't be happy until I've replaced all my matter with animal fat.
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I ate like 16 chocolate chip cookies yesterday. Smiley: frown

Eat an entire bag of chewy chips ahoy in one sitting.

You won't want to look at cookies again for months.

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I ate half a block of Colby-Jack yesterday. True story.

Now that the weather is nicer, I've been walking more regularly. I haven't fretted about my weight for a while and was happily surprised to weigh myself the other day and see that I hadn't gained anything back. Haven't lost more (nor was I putting any effort into it) but haven't backslid either.
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If you combine the total weight of BT and myself, it's almost 260lbs.
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I ate half a block of Colby-Jack yesterday. True story.


I love cheese. Being born and raised in Wisconsin, I have learned the code of moderation when it comes to cheese. That is a line your asshole does not want to cross. Take it from a professional fatty.
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I ate like 16 chocolate chip cookies yesterday. Smiley: frown

I've done that, while spreading half a jar's worth of peanut butter on them. And washing them down with a glass of sweetened almond milk.
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Skip the peanut butter and replace the almond milk with an imperial stout, preferably bourbon barrel aged, and you're doin' it right.
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I love cheese. Being born and raised in Wisconsin, I have learned the code of moderation when it comes to cheese. That is a line your asshole does not want to cross. Take it from a professional fatty.

My very favorite cheese I used to get growing up in mpls was colby-longhorn. It came in a tube shape covered in wax. It was holey like swiss but a mild mild cheddar (ie colby). When fresh it was just SO tasty.

I've never seen it's like anywhere out here on the east coast. I didn't think about it when back in the cities last month.

Kemps ice cream, especially their chocolate, is another midwest dairy treat I miss.
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Down two pounds this week, I think I was down three last. So far I've been losing every week. I was in Chicago last Friday for an amazing concert that I've been waiting to see for years. I originally intended to hit one local restaurant and also to get a combo beef sandwich (my favorite sandwich). I ended up getting a philly cheese on garlic and cheese fries from Phillys Best and I got a gyro and fry. Kind of bummed I missed out on the sandwich but going to attempt my own this week. I know I'm still shrinking down by the fit of my clothing so I have to assume that I'm still putting on muscle. My daily stationary bike routine is now 40 minutes and I'm able to maintain 120-150 BPM for my heartrate the entire time.

We weighed in this morning for our biggest loser thing so two pounds isn't at all bad, considering I had pasta salad, two chili dogs, and probably 2-3 servings of chips for dinner last night. No I don't eat garbage every meal and my breakfast yesterday was a serving of cheerios and lunch was a cabbage/sprout/onion salad with low fat/low cal homemade asian dressing, carrots, and an apple/banana/grape fruit salad with nothing added.

Down a total of 23.6lbs since I first weighed at my doctor appointment on 8/15.

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I'll bite.


Typical Cats. I don't really picture you as a listener of Hip-Hop. Their last album was released in 2003 and they're releasing their third album today. They pretty much went eight years without a peep of anything new. I first heard them in 2002 and have wanted to see them live since. It was at the Bottom Lounge.
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Sweet. Nope, not a hip-hop listener here but was curious anyway.

I spent this past weekend in a Trump Tower hotel room. Trump may be a big doof but he makes a pretty sweet skyscraper. Plus we got free champagne!
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I also picked up a popcorn air popper last week. Three tablespoons of popcorn kernels sprayed with that fake butter spray (no calories/fat) gives the popcorn a surface for the seasonings to latch onto and is a very reasonable snack for what you get out of 100 calories air popped, verses the tiny serving you get from a bag. Makes for a pretty good snack on the nights where I get hungry between dinner/bed.
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It's easy to air pop popcorn in a sauce pan with a lid, with a little olive oil. Really tasty. Just heat the oil up with a couple kernels, wait for them to pop, then add the rest of it to the oil, then put the lid back on. After it starts popping for 10-15 seconds take it off the heat.

If you can find nutritional yeast at your grocery store, you can add a cheesy flavor coating with very very few calories, and lots of nutrients.
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Yeah, making popcorn is incredibly easy with a saucepan, there's no need for secret techniques or specialist equipment.
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The reason I bought the air popper is twofold. First, I don't want to deal with an oily pan (this is the major reason I bought the air popper). Chances are that I want to get back to what I was watching or doing right away. Second, even when using a minimal amount of oil, it is still adding additional fat. The air popper bypasses that and pops via hot air alone. I did read about the yeast thing on another site and will be trying that at some point, I appreciate you bringing it up.
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