Linky.
In all seriousness, I don't think that the south is entirely to blame for this mindset. It seems to also be prevalent in most rural areas of the country, not just southern states. Still, it makes me wonder if rural areas would have this mindset without the outside influence of the south?
It really does make me wonder what this country would be like if we had let the south secede. Would we be more like Canada or Europe? Would we have gone in a completely different direction? What would "they" be like?
Still, when I read articles like this, it really makes me want to move to a different country and never come back. Politics in this country are frightening.
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We can't just let the South secede; if we're gonna split it's gonna be more dramatic. There are several different societies that would be better off on their own: New England as a whole; New York; California and the rest of the West Coast; the mid-west, then Flyover Country.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Oh, I agree that we'd be better served separating into regional countries. The title is just what came to mind after I read the article. I wasn't saying we should let the south secede NOW. I just wonder how different we'd be now, if we had let them secede during the civil war.
Nothing says respectable, no-nonsense political commentary like AlterNet. 
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
PToD wrote:
Politics in this country are frightening.
I mean, for the most part, it's a bunch of Lawyers using the BS & money they learned & earned via their chosen profession to BS people into re-electing them.
The job they're elected to do, mind you, comes second to the above.
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 1:06am by Omegavegeta
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
Debalic wrote:
;California and the rest of the West Coast
no no no NO NO!
After the mess they made down there I refuse to be associated with them in any hypothetical post-apocalyptic scenario.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Okay, that's a fair point.
Still, I like California, and I'm originally from there, so it's hard for me to write them off completely.
Still, I like California, and I'm originally from there, so it's hard for me to write them off completely.
Demea wrote:
Nothing says respectable, no-nonsense political commentary like AlterNet.
Man, no kidding. That was just unspeakable.
I'm somewhat amused by the fact that apparently George Sr. was a benign Northern patriarch, whereas his son is a brutal Simon Legree. And it's the fault of having been elected to political office in Texas as an adult.
That's some powerful juju, there. I don't think you can defeat that.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
I keep thinking, once all the old folks of today die off, we won't have this problem anymore-- save for a few fringe loonies.
Edited, Jul 2nd 2012 12:04am by Kuwoobie
Edited, Jul 2nd 2012 12:04am by Kuwoobie
Galkaman wrote:
Kuwoobie will die crushed under the burden of his mediocrity.
Pretty sure every generation has clung to that hope. How's that workin' out so far?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Kuwoobie wrote:
I keep thinking, once all the old folks of today die off, we won't have this problem anymore-- save for a few fringe loonies.
Edited, Jul 2nd 2012 12:04am by Kuwoobie
Edited, Jul 2nd 2012 12:04am by Kuwoobie
Problem is that people are waiting for this to occur naturally, when we really need to take a more active role. We as a nation need to close every early morning breakfast buffet there is, without their food supply the elderly are helpless.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
I keep thinking, once all the old folks of today die off, we won't have this problem anymore-- save for a few fringe loonies.
Edited, Jul 2nd 2012 12:04am by Kuwoobie
Edited, Jul 2nd 2012 12:04am by Kuwoobie
Problem is that people are waiting for this to occur naturally, when we really need to take a more active role. We as a nation need to close every early morning breakfast buffet there is, without their food supply the elderly are helpless.
But if South Park is any mirror of the real world, won't that lead to mass elderly driver related casualties?
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Samira wrote:
Pretty sure every generation has clung to that hope. How's that workin' out so far?
I once read something somewhere that said "the liberals of today are the conservatives of tomorrow."
Some day, our grandchildren will weird us out with strange new ideas and label us old-fashioned barbarians.
Galkaman wrote:
Kuwoobie will die crushed under the burden of his mediocrity.
Clearly, the answer is to simply destroy the nation's supply of denim. The South will never be able to survive!
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
As a liberal Southern, let me just say that we're as frustrated and annoyed as the rest of the country. And our own people hate us. Jim Whitehead, who narrowly lost to Representative Paul Broun (R GA), claimed that if he was elected he'd blow up UGA except for the football team. (As much as we despise Broun, he at least lives here in Athens and knows where his bread is buttered....) Why? Because UGA, and Athens by extension, is a liberal bastion of education and people who aren't brainwashed into thinking GW Bush was the second coming.
If the South does secede, we demand to be included as an honorary northern state.
If the South does secede, we demand to be included as an honorary northern state.
Demea wrote:
Clearly, the answer is to simply destroy the nation's supply of denim. The South will never be able to survive!
lolwut?
The only stereotype I can think of is overalls and Daisy Dukes. And do people still wear either of those? The Daisy Dukes, maybe... but with this heat wave, no one down here is wearing denim if they can help it.
Nadenu wrote:
Demea wrote:
Clearly, the answer is to simply destroy the nation's supply of denim. The South will never be able to survive!
lolwut?
The only stereotype I can think of is overalls and Daisy Dukes. And do people still wear either of those? The Daisy Dukes, maybe... but with this heat wave, no one down here is wearing denim if they can help it.
What, never heard of the Texas Tuxedo?
What?? Granted, I don't wear my denim jacket much anymore but I'd be lost without my bluejeans!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Eske Esquire wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Demea wrote:
Clearly, the answer is to simply destroy the nation's supply of denim. The South will never be able to survive!
lolwut?
The only stereotype I can think of is overalls and Daisy Dukes. And do people still wear either of those? The Daisy Dukes, maybe... but with this heat wave, no one down here is wearing denim if they can help it.
What, never heard of the Texas Tuxedo?
Texas might be in the south, but they're their own thing over there. Buncha freaks.
When did Texas become part of the South? I thought it was more South-Westy. Have I been in denial all this time?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
When did Texas become part of the South? I thought it was more South-Westy. Have I been in denial all this time?
Texas has always kind of epitomized The South for me.
Alma wrote:
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Samira wrote:
I'm somewhat amused by the fact that apparently George Sr. was a benign Northern patriarch, whereas his son is a brutal Simon Legree.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Samira wrote:
When did Texas become part of the South? I thought it was more South-Westy. Have I been in denial all this time?
When I think Southwest, I think AZ. As the big ol' center of the South, I think Texas fits comfortably under the moniker.
When I think Texas, I think cowboy hats instead of lace parasols so I think of it was a western state.
I also formed my opinion of the states based on how they looked in 1870.
I also formed my opinion of the states based on how they looked in 1870.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I think F Troop, where wild Native Italians roam the forests and soldiers cross dress in funny hats.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Pacific coast states are west. Everything on the other side of the mountains is midwest, until you hit the Mississippi, then you're pretty much east coast. 
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