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#27 Jun 20 2012 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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Hm. Well, as I said, I had only skimmed the first hundre or so pages. I didn't think there were actually sparkly vampires. I guess I was wrong.
I'm pretty sure the sparkly vampire stuff got taken out to prevent lawsuits and all that, still the story is otherwise unchanged from when it was still Edward and Bella or whatever the **** those Twilight characters are named.


I'm just saying, don't expect good writing and don't think that this is anything like an actual BDSM relationship or in fact anything other than exactly what people in the BDSM community tell you to avoid because of how it's based on abuse and a one way power instead of mutual desire and trust.
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#28 Jun 20 2012 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
Hm. Well, as I said, I had only skimmed the first hundre or so pages. I didn't think there were actually sparkly vampires. I guess I was wrong.
I'm pretty sure the sparkly vampire stuff got taken out to prevent lawsuits and all that, still the story is otherwise unchanged from when it was still Edward and Bella or whatever the @#%^ those Twilight characters are named.


I'm just saying, don't expect good writing and don't think that this is anything like an actual BDSM relationship or in fact anything other than exactly what people in the BDSM community tell you to avoid because of how it's based on abuse and a one way power instead of mutual desire and trust.


Just from skimming, I can tell you the characters have been changed from the Twilight characters in that their situations, at the very least, are different. And I've already said I'm not expecting stellar prose here. Also, I am not interested in BDSM so that doesn't concern me.

My whole point, I suppose, is that I take some issue with Locke's comment that he's not comfortable with some chick thinking about "sparkly vampires" while having *** with him because she's read this book. That isnt what she would be thinking about because it's not in this book. So, basically, you haven't said anything different from my perseption of the book and it's origins. Smiley: tongue


Edited, Jun 20th 2012 3:21pm by Belkira
#29 Jun 20 2012 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps I didn't make this clear, but you're drastically overestimating my level of discomfort with this.
Sure. You've obviously spent no time at all dwelling on it. Rock on.


Well, I suppose it is a bit easier for me to articulate a sudden thought than it is for you. No wonder you might have the (mistaken) impression that my first post was the result of weeks of agonized brainstorming, note taking, and dozens of drafts.


Actually, you were right. It's from my upcoming treatise on romance novels and public transportation. It's called Sexual Subways and Romantic Railways: On Erotic Literature and the PATH.

Edited, Jun 20th 2012 4:29pm by Eske
#30 Jun 20 2012 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
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Belkira wrote:
Hm. Well, as I said, I had only skimmed the first hundre or so pages. I didn't think there were actually sparkly vampires. I guess I was wrong.
I'm pretty sure the sparkly vampire stuff got taken out to prevent lawsuits and all that, still the story is otherwise unchanged from when it was still Edward and Bella or whatever the @#%^ those Twilight characters are named.


I'm just saying, don't expect good writing and don't think that this is anything like an actual BDSM relationship or in fact anything other than exactly what people in the BDSM community tell you to avoid because of how it's based on abuse and a one way power instead of mutual desire and trust.


Just from skimming, I can tell you the characters have been changed from the Twilight characters in that their situations, at the very least, are different. And I've already said I'm not expecting stellar prose here. Also, I am not interested in BDSM so that doesn't concern me.

My whole point, I suppose, is that I take some issue with Locke's comment that he's not comfortable with some chick thinking about "sparkly vampires" while having *** with him because she's read this book. That isnt what she would be thinking about because it's not in this book. So, basically, you haven't said anything different from my perseption of the book and it's origins. Smiley: tongue


Edited, Jun 20th 2012 3:21pm by Belkira
I have read neither 50 shades of grey nor Twilight so I can't really comment on that, I'm just saying what I've gathered from the various interviews, snippets of text and discussions on the book I've read.

It's gotten a lot of critique but it apparently taps into the fantasy of being overpowered by a strong man which works for a lot of women I guess.


Either way, not my kind of thing.
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#31 Jun 20 2012 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I've vaguely wondered what this whole "Fifty Shades" dad was all about. Not much, as it turns out.
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#32 Jun 20 2012 at 3:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Perhaps I didn't make this clear, but you're drastically overestimating my level of discomfort with this.
Sure. You've obviously spent no time at all dwelling on it. Rock on.


Well, I suppose it is a bit easier for me to articulate a sudden thought than it is for you. No wonder you might have the (mistaken) impression that my first post was the result of weeks of agonized brainstorming, note taking, and dozens of drafts.

Actually, you were right. It's from my upcoming treatise on romance novels and public transportation. It's called Sexual Subways and Romantic Railways: On Erotic Literature and the PATH.



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#33 Jun 20 2012 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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#34 Jun 20 2012 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Two of the women I work with are reading it. So far they have both come to the conclusion that it's fairly terrible, but are forcing themselves through it. Of course, these are also the same two women who, when I mentioned that Ray Bradbury had died, had no idea who he was. So, grain of salt and all that.
#35 Jun 20 2012 at 3:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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#36 Jun 20 2012 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Two of the women I work with are reading it. So far they have both come to the conclusion that it's fairly terrible, but are forcing themselves through it. Of course, these are also the same two women who, when I mentioned that Ray Bradbury had died, had no idea who he was. So, grain of salt and all that.

I read it because some of my girlfriends said it was the next big thing and I like to stay young at heart, but oy. The writing was atrocious, the characters laughable and the ***... Well, at my age if you haven't at least attempted 85% of what's in there by now, then you didn't do it right.
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#37 Jun 20 2012 at 4:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have no desire (ha!) to read it. I'm sure the pictures I paint in my head are much better than what she's painting in her little Twilight book. Also, I've never read any erotica that wasn't just totally overdone to the point of embarrassment.
#38 Jun 20 2012 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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#39 Jun 20 2012 at 4:34 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I read them when I was younger and single, but they just don't do much for me anymore. I much prefer novels that are well written and have good plots, that has some fun **** times inserted here and there. *snickers*
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#40 Jun 20 2012 at 5:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've read excerpts from it, which led me to believe the SM part was the actual reading involved. "Atrocious" is being kind.

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#41 Jun 20 2012 at 6:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've not read the book, but for the record, Vancouver, WA is nothing like how it is portrayed in the book simply because nothing like that happens in Vancouver, WA. That's what Portland is for...

Also, it's really amusing to run into a co worker (male) intently reading that book at the book store and to then watch them unprompted try to pass it off as a mystery novel, hopeing that I didn't know the title.
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#42 Jun 20 2012 at 7:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I'm sure it IS a mystery, to him.

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Also, it's really amusing to run into a co worker (male) intently reading that book at the book store and to then watch them unprompted try to pass it off as a mystery novel, hopeing that I didn't know the title.


The check out lady asked me what the book was about. I replied, "***." She said "oh, isn't it a mystery?" I said, "No, it's just about ***. That's it."

I suppose that'll teach her to ask about people's purchases. Smiley: lol


Edited, Jun 20th 2012 8:12pm by Belkira
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I never read Twilight so I never felt any need to read Twilight fanfiction.

I do like a good romance novel (and I've always referred to them as "girl ****" when discussing them with the opposite ***), but erotic fiction is just a bit too much for me. I enjoy the sexual tension, the chase, the pursuit, followed up by a consummation, and usually lots more tension. When the whole plot is built around ***, it's just not as much fun.

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#48 Jun 21 2012 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
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Smiley: rolleyes

And here I'm the one who seems to be touching all the nerves. Y'all are pretty cranky this week. The heat, I'm guessing?

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True enough.

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Apparently they'd been having trouble with the third step. Apparently, the power button was camouflaged. Fortunately, I was able to use an accompanying picture on the box to lead them to the location of the hidden on/off switch.







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And here I'm the one who seems to be touching all the nerves.

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#51 Jun 21 2012 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
The check out lady asked me what the book was about. I replied, "***." She said "oh, isn't it a mystery?" I said, "No, it's just about ***. That's it."

I suppose that'll teach her to ask about people's purchases. Smiley: lol
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