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#1 Jun 18 2012 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Ok. Let's say it's early Sunday afternoon and you're going through a drive through ATM to get some cash. The car in front of you drives out, you pull up, get your wallet out, grab your ATM card, roll down the window, and are treated to a beeping ATM machine with the words "Do you need more time to complete your transaction?" with two buttons: "Continue" and "Return card".

Do you?
Hit continue, and drain as much cash as possible out of the stupid saps accounts.:0 (0.0%)
Hit continue, check out how much money the person has and then choose whether to take some:2 (4.2%)
Eject the card, do your transaction with your own card, then insert it back in for the next person to deal with:0 (0.0%)
Eject the card and keep it as a souvenir:1 (2.1%)
Eject the card and then turn it in. Cause that's the right thing to do and Karma will reward you:45 (93.8%)
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#2 Jun 18 2012 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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I take $20 as Idiot Tax from the person's account, then turn it in.
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#3 Jun 18 2012 at 3:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yay for more karma. Smiley: yippee

They have video cameras there anyway right?
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#4 Jun 18 2012 at 4:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eject the card, leave it in the half out state and it'll get swallowed by the machine in about 30 seconds or so and kills the card while informing the owner that h/she forgot to grab their card.

Problem solved with no further action needed.
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#5 Jun 18 2012 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh. I forgot to add a possibility. After ejecting the card (assuming you choose to do so), you discover that it's a debit card. So the potential for going on a spending spree with said card after the fact is there as well I suppose.
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#6 Jun 18 2012 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Take the card and turn it in or see if the owner is in the book, cause I'm not a ****.
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#7 Jun 18 2012 at 4:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Haha, a thought experiment from gbaji to figure out if libberls like taking money from others.

I'll start the next one.

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#8 Jun 18 2012 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does the dog have a debit card?
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Does the dog have a debit card?
And the AIDs.
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AIDS? Like she's on welfare?

And yes, it's a "she" dog I'm marrying. I'm not some weirdo.
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#11 Jun 18 2012 at 5:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was going to go with the last option but then I realized I would turn it in because I am not a massive **** and I don't give a crap about karma. Besides the point, if I still saw them ahead I would try to catch up to them and return their card.

-shrug- What would you do Gbaji? I am curious on that.
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#12 Jun 18 2012 at 5:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Most ATMs will require that you re-enter your PIN for another transaction. Therefore, question moot, karma preserved, souvenir acquired.

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#13 Jun 18 2012 at 5:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Morality aside, the legality of accessing someone else's account, no matter the victim's error, while being recorded on a security cam needs to be addressed. It's trivially easy to match up timestamps from the transactions to the video - and don't think that the camera staring you in the face is the only one. They're also watching the car itself and already have your license plate. In summary, anyone stupid enough to pull anything in that situation will soon get a visit from the boys in blue.
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#14 Jun 18 2012 at 5:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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And Demea has a point as well.
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#15 Jun 18 2012 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
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I'd turn it in. Not because I'm an honest and kind-hearted fellow, but because it would take next to no effort to get caught stealing that way.
#16 Jun 18 2012 at 6:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd turn it in, but I would check the balance first. Cause I'm nosy.

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#17 Jun 18 2012 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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turn it in. They have cameras.
Althoug I was at the airport the other day and went to the family restroom with two of the boys. On the changing table was $17 in cash. I hung around waiting for someone to knock onthe door looking for it, then wandered around the bathrooms for a few more minutes after waiting for someone to rush up, but no one did. So I bought the kids hot cocoa from Starbucks. I felt a little weird keeping it, but figured I gave whoever it was enough time to come back. And if I didnt take it, the next person definitely would have.
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#18 Jun 18 2012 at 7:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, cash is a little different, being untraceable and all. If I saw someone drop cash I would give it to them - I can say this definitely because I've done it before. A card has a name on it, or you can give it (or mail it) to the bank. Cash? If the person isn't there, or doesn't come looking for it, you can't really give it back.

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#19 Jun 18 2012 at 7:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd turn it in because I would hope someone would do the same for me.

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Yeah, cash is a little different, being untraceable and all. If I saw someone drop cash I would give it to them - I can say this definitely because I've done it before. A card has a name on it, or you can give it (or mail it) to the bank. Cash? If the person isn't there, or doesn't come looking for it, you can't really give it back.
I was out with Jr. once and he found like a $5 on the floor and he was THRILLED. I didn't have the heart to tell my shortie to turn it in to customer service or whatever.
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I was going to go with the last option but then I realized I would turn it in because I am not a massive **** and I don't give a crap about karma. Besides the point, if I still saw them ahead I would try to catch up to them and return their card.

-shrug- What would you do Gbaji? I am curious on that.


You mean "what did I do"? I ejected the card and proceeded with my transaction. I then waited around for about 10 minutes to see if the person would return, but she didn't. Then I attempted to drop it in the depository slot, but it required a key to open it. The bank was closed, so I tracked down the security for the mall the bank was attached to and turned it in to them. It's what I would hope someone would do if I left my card in the ATM for some reason.
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#21 Jun 18 2012 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I picked the last option, because stealing is wrong. You may not know who the person is, but like someone else said, there is the option there of returning the card to someone. With cash, you don't really have that option unless it was in a wallet. So if I found some cash, I'd probably keep it. The security cameras around an ATM were an after thought.
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#22 Jun 18 2012 at 8:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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I did find a credit card on the street one time. I mailed it to the issuing bank with a note.
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#23 Jun 18 2012 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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I once found a credit card on the sidewalk while going to training for one of my old jobs. Took it with me and turned it in to the manager of the hotel the training was at.
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Criminy wrote:
I was going to go with the last option but then I realized I would turn it in because I am not a massive **** and I don't give a crap about karma. Besides the point, if I still saw them ahead I would try to catch up to them and return their card.

-shrug- What would you do Gbaji? I am curious on that.


You mean "what did I do"? I ejected the card and proceeded with my transaction. I then waited around for about 10 minutes to see if the person would return, but she didn't. Then I attempted to drop it in the depository slot, but it required a key to open it. The bank was closed, so I tracked down the security for the mall the bank was attached to and turned it in to them. It's what I would hope someone would do if I left my card in the ATM for some reason.


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#26 Jun 19 2012 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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My bank's ATMs don't keep your card at all anymore. You put your card in and then it's immediately ejected once it's read. THEN you put your info in. I haven't tried more than one transaction since they went with this method, but I'm guessing you'd have to use your card for every one.
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