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#52 Apr 04 2012 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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As much as everyone jabbers on about it here I'm actually considering downloading it and trying it out myself. You know, like then I can take a break from replaying old FF games. Smiley: nod

I think it's going on a big sale soon (within the next day or two) on Amazon. Keep an eye on the deals thread in the Other Games forum.


It's worth getting the ultimate edition if you can, imo. Some of the DLC is pathetic, but others are definitely worthwhile. And if you can get the core game, Awakening, and all the DLC for <=$20, it's worth it. The disc version is on sale at Amazon for $17 right now.
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Btw, Game Informer has an article in this months issue about Rift as it turns one year old. From what I read, it seemed pretty positive.


Rift is fun. But with me not working, I really can't justify paying for two MMO subs. I suppose I could let my EQ2 sub go F2P for a while and pay for Rift for a couple of months. While the questing and grouping is nothing new in that game, the rifts and invasions are pretty fun. Thing is, that's all there is to that game. So it really doesn't hold my attention for more than a month or two. There's tons of crap to do in EQ2 that doesn't always involve a lot of fighting or questing, so that's what keeps drawing me back.


Like what, may I ask? Not being an ***, I just know next to nothing about EQ2. I've been vaguely interested in trying it for a long time, and did once, but the controls bugged me. I'd be curious to see if it's something I'd enjoy playing on a purely F2P basis.

If you're into crafting, EQ2 has some of the best out there. It also has the best ingame housing, IMO. So if you feel like playing but not necessarily going out to rape and pillage, you can stay home, make some armor or furniture, then decorate your house and submit it to be rated on the leaderboards (this is totally optional).

Here's some examples. I was going to link the Homeshow forum on the official forums, but I can't get that to load for some reason.
http://eq2decorators.com/ideagallery.html

One thing that is a weakness for a lot of people are the collections. There are these glowing spots on the ground that you harvest and when you examine them, you have the option to add it to a collection. Once the collection is completed, you turn it in for exp, coin, armor, house items, etc. "Shiny" hunting is highly addictive and can be a very good source of income.

Then there are the Lore and Legend quests. Those involve killing, but you're killing certain mobs that drop items used in the L&L quest. When you complete these, you gain access to a special type of attack that's effective against that particular mob, and a couple of items for your house. Trophies.

Another thing that still requires fighting but with a different twist is the dungeon maker. It's like a cross between housing and fighting. There are people that just create dungeons and hardly ever run them, and then people that run them for the tokens and never create one at all. I think it's a pretty cool idea and you can get some nice stuff from them. Making them requires and expansion that's not included with F2P, but running them is available to everyone.

Ok, that's long enough, haha.
#54 Apr 04 2012 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, that sounds like crack for me. I really miss in-game housing. TOR gives you your own ship, which is nice, but as of right now you can't decorate it. You can upgrade its battle capabilities, and patch 1.2 will let you purchase some other useful upgrades, but the actual decorations/setup is built into the design. I'd love it if you could make aesthetic changes...

And the collection thing could certainly absorb some of my time...

Okay, sold, I'll try it out. :P Thanks!
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#55 Apr 04 2012 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Idiggory, what TOR server are you on, anyway?
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
It's worth getting the ultimate edition if you can, imo. Some of the DLC is pathetic, but others are definitely worthwhile. And if you can get the core game, Awakening, and all the DLC for <=$20, it's worth it. The disc version is on sale at Amazon for $17 right now.

DA Pack (DA:O Ultimate + DA2) for $9.95 I believe when it goes on sale. Which makes sense -- GamersGate had the same deal like a week ago.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 5:57pm by Jophiel
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#57 Apr 04 2012 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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That would definitely be worth it for anyone who hasn't played.^^

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I'm on The Constant in TOR. But I'm seriously considering moving to a higher population server. Mine is like the 95th most populated out of the 123 servers. I think I might move over to Elysium, which is 35th or so. Still debating that, but trying to power through chapter 1 on it, anyway, to claim my Legacy name.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 7:10pm by idiggory
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#58 Apr 04 2012 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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oh will that be on steam? Or is the sale somewhere else?
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Amazon. Activates on EA's "Origin" client, like all of EA's stuff these days.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Wow, that sounds like crack for me. I really miss in-game housing. TOR gives you your own ship, which is nice, but as of right now you can't decorate it. You can upgrade its battle capabilities, and patch 1.2 will let you purchase some other useful upgrades, but the actual decorations/setup is built into the design. I'd love it if you could make aesthetic changes...

And the collection thing could certainly absorb some of my time...

Okay, sold, I'll try it out. :P Thanks!

Ok, like I mentioned before, I'm on Everfrost. Dyadem, DSD, and Cyliena also play there. My main is Enica and I have an army of alts. /join Asylum, someone is usually in that channel. Once you join it, check to see what number the game assigns that channel for you, then type /whochannel # to see who's hanging out in the Asylum.

Oh, and did I mention there's appearance armor? And quite a lot of it. So you don't have to look like you're wearing your armor. Right now, it's Bristlebane Day (God of Merriment, AKA practical joker). So, you can get 4 different types of jester outfits for your character, haha.

http://www.everquest2.com/news/article?month=032012&id=5186
#61 Apr 04 2012 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Amazon. Activates on EA's "Origin" client, like all of EA's stuff these days.


Ew...it was hard enough to give into steam, I'll probably just have to go without.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 4:35pm by Olorinus
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Well, you can always pay three times as much for half the content on Steam if you need to keep your Origin cherry intact. Thirty bucks for DA:O on Steam.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
That would definitely be worth it for anyone who hasn't played.^^

[EDIT]

I'm on The Constant in TOR. But I'm seriously considering moving to a higher population server. Mine is like the 95th most populated out of the 123 servers. I think I might move over to Elysium, which is 35th or so. Still debating that, but trying to power through chapter 1 on it, anyway, to claim my Legacy name.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 7:10pm by idiggory
Ah, cool. I'm over on Jung Ma. I think it's #15.
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Wow, that sounds like crack for me. I really miss in-game housing. TOR gives you your own ship, which is nice, but as of right now you can't decorate it. You can upgrade its battle capabilities, and patch 1.2 will let you purchase some other useful upgrades, but the actual decorations/setup is built into the design. I'd love it if you could make aesthetic changes...

And the collection thing could certainly absorb some of my time...

Okay, sold, I'll try it out. :P Thanks!

Ok, like I mentioned before, I'm on Everfrost. Dyadem, DSD, and Cyliena also play there. My main is Enica and I have an army of alts. /join Asylum, someone is usually in that channel. Once you join it, check to see what number the game assigns that channel for you, then type /whochannel # to see who's hanging out in the Asylum.

Oh, and did I mention there's appearance armor? And quite a lot of it. So you don't have to look like you're wearing your armor. Right now, it's Bristlebane Day (God of Merriment, AKA practical joker). So, you can get 4 different types of jester outfits for your character, haha.

http://www.everquest2.com/news/article?month=032012&id=5186


Great, I'll do that once it's downloaded.

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That would definitely be worth it for anyone who hasn't played.^^

[EDIT]

I'm on The Constant in TOR. But I'm seriously considering moving to a higher population server. Mine is like the 95th most populated out of the 123 servers. I think I might move over to Elysium, which is 35th or so. Still debating that, but trying to power through chapter 1 on it, anyway, to claim my Legacy name.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 7:10pm by idiggory
Ah, cool. I'm over on Jung Ma. I think it's #15.

Lucky. :P

I'm leveling a Sith Warrior. I had always intended to use different servers for my Empire/Republic characters, so I figure the worst case scenario is that I establish a legacy for my Sith, if I ultimately decide to stay on The Constant.
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#65 Apr 04 2012 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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I think I can add a little to the commentary on Rift. It's a very safe game, basically it's WoW. If you like the model of how MMOs are currently produced you'll find no pleasant or unpleasant surprises in the game. I reached level cap and did all the end game stuff available at the time and just realized that even though it is a well made game, the model didn't work for me. I can't do MMOs.

I did have a ton of fun playing my Warden though. I had the opposite experience of healing in GW--where everything was designed to frustrate a healer--healing as a Warden was designed to frustrate everyone else.
#66 Apr 04 2012 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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Healing is actually a decent way to compare systems across games/expansions, because it ends up as the backbone of most PVP content and all of PVE.

OP healers make content trivial, UP healers make it needlessly painful. If there's significant balance issues when comparing healers, you'll likely see way worse problems elsewhere (DpS who max out at, say, 65% of the average DpS for another class).

It's not going to tell you everything, of course, but it presents a surprising amount of info.
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You can't compare solely healing, because tankiness is a huge factor of how much healing is required.

I think Rift had a fairly balanced healing setup on the surface, and you had to dig really deep to find the imbalances that were there. But that makes exploiting them all the more fun.
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DAMMIT, Nad. Smiley: mad

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Come back... You know your army of short people needs jester outfits.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
That would definitely be worth it for anyone who hasn't played.^^

[EDIT]

I'm on The Constant in TOR. But I'm seriously considering moving to a higher population server. Mine is like the 95th most populated out of the 123 servers. I think I might move over to Elysium, which is 35th or so. Still debating that, but trying to power through chapter 1 on it, anyway, to claim my Legacy name.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 7:10pm by idiggory


I've got a level 22 Sith on Elysium and a level 11 Jedi on InfinityGate. I jonined IG to play with a guy from work, but I have hard time doing it, it's so much more fun to play a Sith than a Jedi.

As to Rift, I play it, but I don't really do endgame at all. I mostly just craft, explore (though I've pretty much run out of territory at this point), and occasionally to some PvP in the battlefronts. I really only signed up again to muck about with the one year anniversery event, which is almost over, so I doubt that it'll hold my interest much. Though with the addition of Fishing and Survival in the next update, that might keep me going for a bit.
#71 Apr 04 2012 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
That would definitely be worth it for anyone who hasn't played.^^

[EDIT]

I'm on The Constant in TOR. But I'm seriously considering moving to a higher population server. Mine is like the 95th most populated out of the 123 servers. I think I might move over to Elysium, which is 35th or so. Still debating that, but trying to power through chapter 1 on it, anyway, to claim my Legacy name.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 7:10pm by idiggory


I've got a level 22 Sith on Elysium and a level 11 Jedi on InfinityGate. I jonined IG to play with a guy from work, but I have hard time doing it, it's so much more fun to play a Sith than a Jedi.

As to Rift, I play it, but I don't really do endgame at all. I mostly just craft, explore (though I've pretty much run out of territory at this point), and occasionally to some PvP in the battlefronts. I really only signed up again to muck about with the one year anniversery event, which is almost over, so I doubt that it'll hold my interest much. Though with the addition of Fishing and Survival in the next update, that might keep me going for a bit.


How are you liking the server?
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#72 Apr 04 2012 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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It's a bit more populated that I.G., but it still feels empty a lot of the time. There are only ever twenty to thirty people in a zone when I'm playing. The auction house is a barren wasteland when it comes to low level stuff. I pretty much get by with quest rewards for gear. That might change at later levels, but for now it's a bit annoying.
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I know my server is better at higher levels, and it has 5-15 fewer people per zone than Elysium does, so it should get better.
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#74 Apr 05 2012 at 12:36 AM Rating: Good
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I am loving my warden on EQ2, already got an invite to some random guild as well, so that's nice, and leveling is fast, which I like... I hate slow leveling with burning fury, also my frog is cool and I've already got lots of skillz
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I am loving my warden on EQ2, already got an invite to some random guild as well, so that's nice, and leveling is fast, which I like... I hate slow leveling with burning fury, also my frog is cool and I've already got lots of skillz

Good to hear it! Hopefully you'll stick around with us for a bit. Smiley: grin
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As much as everyone jabbers on about it here I'm actually considering downloading it and trying it out myself. You know, like then I can take a break from replaying old FF games. Smiley: nod

Dragon Age Pack (DA:O Ultimate + DA2) - $9.95

That's a ***********-diculous amount of content for ten bucks.
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#77 Apr 05 2012 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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that's tempting even with the fact I'd have to go through oracle and (I'm assuming) remember another **** username and password
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Don't hold me to it but I believe you only need to activate it the once and then you don't need to ***** with the Origin client any longer.
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As much as everyone jabbers on about it here I'm actually considering downloading it and trying it out myself. You know, like then I can take a break from replaying old FF games. Smiley: nod

Dragon Age Pack (DA:O Ultimate + DA2) - $9.95

That's a ***********-diculous amount of content for ten bucks.


Well heck, I may just have to order that tonight then. That's almost too tempting to pass up.
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#80 Apr 05 2012 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
yeah, I'm sold on that one, but I somehow doubt it'll actually let me download it.

Nope. So who wants to buy the game, burn it on a CD and mail it to me?

Edited, Apr 5th 2012 1:34pm by Xsarus
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#81 Apr 05 2012 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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I assume .ca doesn't have the same deal?
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yeah, I'm sold on that one, but I somehow doubt it'll actually let me download it.

Nope. So who wants to buy the game, burn it on a CD and mail it to me?

Amazon game download sales are all US only. Supposedly it's easy enough to get around if you use a (fake) US billing address since it's just the purchase that's restricted, not the download. But living in the US I never tried.

Edit: Use a Google string like "amazon game downloads fake us address" and you'll find numerous accounts of it working from various people. Use your correct credit card information/address, just a US address in the billing field.

Edited, Apr 5th 2012 2:24pm by Jophiel
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#83 Apr 05 2012 at 1:17 PM Rating: Excellent
Interesting. I always thought that was verified against your credit card.

Well, that was easy. I had to make a new account, but no sweat.
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Awesome. Glad it worked for you.

I get the impression that it's a loophole only in the PC digital downloads section. Supposedly it doesn't work in their Android marketplace.
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What are the system requirement for that game? My laptop is pretty ******. Couldn't even tryout RIFT on it.
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Pretend I did some snarky "Let me Google that for you" bit.
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Maybe his laptop can't even google.
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Maybe his laptop can't even google.
Oh, it can Google. I just like having other people do my work for me.


Thank you Joph.
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You can thank me by buying it and then making a thread about it to **** off Eske.
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Downloading now. New thread before weekend ends!
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I'd also appreciate separate threads for "Leliana's Song", "Witch Hunt", "Awakenings" and that one with Shale.

At least one of those threads should be started in the Dark age of Camelot section of the forums.
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#93 Apr 05 2012 at 10:17 PM Rating: Excellent
yeah, what's the scoop with all the downloadable extras. Are they just additional quest packs or something?

also http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1333685829102658643&p=1#1
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Awakening is the only one really worth picking up, and only comparatively. The rest are completely unnecessary.
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Hmm, I already have DA:O and DA2 for 360, but I couldn't even buy just Awakening for for ten bucks. I think I'll be getting in on this deal.
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Honestly, I didn't think Awakening was all that great. I enjoyed Witch Hunt way more, and it was a fraction of the content. Awakening's story will be important for DA3, though, from dev interviews.

Stone Prisoner is nice--Shale's easily one of the best characters. I got it for "free" (collector's edition), but would have bought it.

Return to Ostagar adds a ridiculously powerful set of heavy armor--it's perfect for Alistair, if you are going to use him as your tank. It also exposes some story elements, but it's not integral.

Warden's Keep adds two new abilities, but they're nothing special. Not terrible, but won't be central to any play style. Builds on the history of the Wardens in Ferelden. But, most importantly, it gives you a storage chest that you can use to upgrade items that can scale with level. Also gives you access to one of the best swords in the game.

Golems I have, but have yet to play.

Witch Hunt is really the link between DAO and DAIII, from what I can tell. It's pure story stuff, but completely outside DA:O's plot, beyond the fact that your Warden is the main character.

Leliana's Song is a "telling" of her past as a bard, and how she came to the chantry.

Darkspawn Chronicles is an alternate reality where the Warden dies (in the joining) and so never gathers the army to defend Denerim. You play as a Darkspawn Lieutenant.
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Laptop doesn't have a video card supported. Smiley: mad Now i have to wait for it to download on the tower instead.
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yeah, what's the scoop with all the downloadable extras. Are they just additional quest packs or something?

Idiggory ran them down well enough. I'll only add that Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep and Return to Ostagar are all integrated into the main game. You'll find tips or NPCs along the way who'll send you in the direction for them.

Leliana's Song, Witch Hunt, Golems of Omfdsnsadfhg and Darkspawn Chronicles are all "stand alone" one-offs. Awakenings is as well, although it's larger than the rest. Witch Hunt you play as an epilogue to the DA:O story, Leliana's Song is a prelude where you play as Leliana herself.

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Remember when this thread was about Rift?

Good times...
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Awakening affects the story line of DA2, if you import the character. The rest don't.

I like the golem companion. The golem story is okay but not compelling.
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