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Besides seeing him is one thing. following him when you've been told you shouldn't by the authorities is a completely different situation.
rdmcandie wrote:
Should focus more on the following of the kid, you know doing exactly what the police operator specifically asked him not to do.
Funny how often people repeat things that are simply not true. Not only did the police operator not tell him not to follow Trayvon (he said "you don't have to do that"), he also has absolutely zero authority to tell him not to anyway. But by all means, continue to base your position on provably false claims.
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Pretty strong chance that if he had let the police do their job and come out and confront martin, he would be alive today.
And? There's a strong chance that had Martin not decided to straddle Zimmerman and beat him mercilessly, he would be alive today.
One of these has a much more direct causal relationship to his death than the other. One of them is an illegal act. One of them justifies self defense. Can you figure out which?
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Instead Zimmerman shadowed him and eventually got himself into a confrontation. Sounds to me like self defence is out the window, considering the fact Zimmerman had numerous chances to completely avoid a confrontation, yet chose to pursue the matter himself.
Martin had numerous chances to avoid a confrontation as well. The differences is that (assuming Zimmerman's account is correct), Zimmerman's choices weren't illegal and didn't justify self defense on the other person's part. Martin's did. From a legal standpoint, nothing Zimmerman did justified an assault by Martin, but what Martin did justified the shot that Zimmerman fired.
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Also if I was trying to get away with murder, Id likely happily give myself a bloody nose too, this is complete conjecture and im not saying it went down like that, but its what I would do if it would keep me out of *** rape town.
Please tell me you're kidding. You do realize that three different eye witnesses all saw Martin on top of Zimmerman hitting him, right? It's like the minds just close in cases like this. Shocking. Really really shocking. You guys are so afraid of being wrong that you'd rather spin ever more absurd and unlikely theories about what might of happened rather than looking at the very most likely explanation: That Zimmerman's account is correct.