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#227 Mar 11 2012 at 12:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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There is no relativity in equality, at least in a computational point of view. Treating everyone the same when everyone isn't the same, is equal but not necessarily fair.

What, no it isn't. You've created your own definitions for words again haven't you.

If and only if something is "the same" in a specific context is it equal in that context. If people aren't the same in a regard, and you treat them as if they are, then you're not being equal. Though humorously enough you could be being fair.
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#228Almalieque, Posted: Mar 11 2012 at 6:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've specifically said in a computational point of view. In computations, 4 != 3.9999999999. Saying otherwise states that irrational numbers are also rational numbers.
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#229 Mar 11 2012 at 7:00 AM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
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There is no relativity in equality, at least in a computational point of view. Treating everyone the same when everyone isn't the same, is equal but not necessarily fair.

What, no it isn't. You've created your own definitions for words again haven't you.

If and only if something is "the same" in a specific context is it equal in that context. If people aren't the same in a regard, and you treat them as if they are, then you're not being equal. Though humorously enough you could be being fair.


I've specifically said in a computational point of view. In computations, 4 != 3.9999999999. Saying otherwise states that irrational numbers are also rational numbers.

Actually you can prove algebraically that 3.99999999 = 4...

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#231 Mar 11 2012 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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Whaaaat? Smiley: facepalm

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#232 Mar 11 2012 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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In computations, 4 != 3.9999999999.

Which is my point, and the opposite of what you said.
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Treating everyone the same when everyone isn't the same, is equal

When two numbers aren't the same and you treat them as if they are, you're saying they're equal. They're not. People have to be the same in a regard for them to be equal in that regard. IF they're not, and you act as if they are, then you're bad.
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#233 Mar 11 2012 at 8:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually you can prove algebraically that 3.99999999 = 4...

No you can't. Don't do this.
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#234 Mar 11 2012 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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Actually you can prove algebraically that 3.99999999 = 4...

No you can't. Don't do this.

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#235 Mar 11 2012 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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People are not numbers. This an irrelevant distraction.
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#236 Mar 11 2012 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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The finer points of mathematics are much more interesting than the current discussion, though.
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#238 Mar 11 2012 at 11:35 AM Rating: Default
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Allegory wrote:
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In computations, 4 != 3.9999999999.

Which is my point, and the opposite of what you said.
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Treating everyone the same when everyone isn't the same, is equal

When two numbers aren't the same and you treat them as if they are, you're saying they're equal. They're not. People have to be the same in a regard for them to be equal in that regard. IF they're not, and you act as if they are, then you're bad.


I see how you were confused. My example was too abstract.

Let me try again. If you have one set standard, that is equality. If you adjust the rules to fit certain people, it is no longer equal. There is no relativity in equality. If it isn't across the board, then it isn't equal, period.

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The finer points of mathematics are much more interesting than the current discussion, though.
Watching paint dry is more interesting than any discussion with Alma. Less predictable too.
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#245 Mar 12 2012 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Resistance is futile.


Correction, resistance is voltage over current.
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Resistance is futile.


Correction, resistance is voltage over current.

Only when you're talking about electricity.
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#248 Mar 12 2012 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Every time I think I've heard it all, Alma manages to shock me yet again.
Like it surprises anyone that he can't keep up with the current conversation.
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Every time I think I've heard it all, Alma manages to shock me yet again.
Like it surprises anyone that he can't keep up with the current conversation.


In his defense though, it's a little outside of his field.
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#250 Mar 12 2012 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
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Every time I think I've heard it all, Alma manages to shock me yet again.
Like it surprises anyone that he can't keep up with the current conversation.


In his defense though, it's a little outside of his field.


But don't be surprised when he asserts a position that's the polar opposite of the rest of the forum.
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#251 Mar 12 2012 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
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Every time I think I've heard it all, Alma manages to shock me yet again.
Like it surprises anyone that he can't keep up with the current conversation.


In his defense though, it's a little outside of his field.


But don't be surprised when he asserts a position that's the polar opposite of the rest of the forum.


He's always been a bit of a breaker on those things.
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