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#352gbaji, Posted: Feb 17 2012 at 3:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If I'd said something remotely similar to that, you'd have a point. But I very clearly said that the posters saying that I'm a poor writer are *not* everyone. Here's that situation where you deliberately twist my words around again. Do you see yet how it's not my writing that is the problem?
#353 Feb 17 2012 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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FTFY.
You should look up what that means. It means you corrected something in the quoted selection that was in error. Seeing as how your entire argument on your writing ability is "Everywhere else your writing skills are considered much better than almost everyone on Zam," you didn't actually fix anything. Unless you can show us where that everywhere else is, it is only as believable as "bangin hot chickz."
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Do you see yet how it's not my writing that is the problem?
I haven't talked to your phantom witnesses yet, nor have I reviewed any of your other writings and the color commentary attached to it, so not really. The only source and reactions to your material I have is Zam to work with. Unlike you, I don't take just the singular word of someone, especially ones trying to sell themselves. Like I said in that post you didn't read, a good writer knows their audience and adjusts accordingly. Your refusal to adjust, and in fact vehemently criticize others and dismiss them for not praising you, is the very definition of a lousy writer.

You're welcome to keep telling us how "everywhere else, where biased perceptions aren't the rule of the day, your writing skills are objectively considered much much better than at least 90% of the posters here," if it makes you feel better, though. At least one person believes it, even if that one person is yourself.
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#354 Feb 17 2012 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, if "everywhere else" is Republican or conservative media forums, I don't doubt they like his writing style *coughcontentcough* over there. I'm sure they follow it perfectly.

And they wouldn't follow "our" logic at all.
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#356 Feb 17 2012 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
FTFY.
You should look up what that means. It means you corrected something in the quoted selection that was in error.


Yes. You incorrectly wrote the fallacious argument people were making in this thread. I helpfully corrected that mistake for you.

You can thank me later.

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Seeing as how your entire argument on your writing ability is "Everywhere else your writing skills are considered much better than almost everyone on Zam," you didn't actually fix anything.


Your first mistake (of many) is assuming that that's my "entire argument". That's not my argument at all. I was making an argument about something completely unrelated right up until the moment when those I was arguing against decided to side track the whole thing into a discussion about my writing skills. That's their argument. Perhaps you should examine their argument with the same keen eye for fallacy first. Just a suggestion.


Hence my correction. That's the fallacy you should have started with. My response was simply to point out that the posters here do not represent anywhere near a sufficiently large (much less unbiased) audience of my writing to make a fair and accurate assessment of my abilities. Is that not correct? So why does it matter if "everyone else" agrees with me or not? What matters it that "not everyone" agrees with those making claims on this forum about my writing skills.

Do you see yet how you have the whole thing backwards?

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Like I said in that post you didn't read, a good writer knows their audience and adjusts accordingly. Your refusal to adjust, and in fact vehemently criticize others and dismiss them for not praising you, is the very definition of a lousy writer.


If my objective were to get you guys to buy copies of my books, you'd have a point. But this isn't an audience. This is an interactive communication medium. When you say I refuse to "adjust accordingly", you're not talking about writing style though. I could be just as long winded, but if I were a liberal and this long winded, and as passionate about my positions, the majority of the posters on this forum would love me. Not just a little bit, but I'd be proclaimed as the best, smartest, sexiest, etc advocate for the liberal causes around. You'd all worship at my feet.

Of course, what you argue I should do isn't going to happen. So I guess you'll just have to live with that. Ok?

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You're welcome to keep telling us how "everywhere else, where biased perceptions aren't the rule of the day, your writing skills are objectively considered much much better than at least 90% of the posters here," if it makes you feel better, though. At least one person believes it, even if that one person is yourself.



I'm sure that self reflection isn't one of your strong suits, and honesty about said reflections even less so, but you have to know that the objections to my writing "style" have far far less to do with the actual style, as to the content. You don't have an issue with how I say things. You don't really have an issue with the length of my posts. You have an issue with *what* I say. You just find it easier to attack the style and then length than the actual meaning and message.

And no matter how much you may deny that publicly, it's pretty abundantly apparent that this is the case. I'm sure you'll pat yourself on the back, and those of like mind will join you in refuting my words, but it's got to be pretty hollow for you. You know I'm right. All those joining you in your loudly laughing (at my expense, as you'll make abundantly clear) have to know that you're lying. Somewhere inside you know that it's all an act. You can lie to me. You can lie to the readers of this forum. But you really can't lie to yourself, can you?


I don't worry much about what other random people on the interwebs think of me. But apparently, you place great stock in it. Your choice, I suppose. But you can only eventually lose that game. You have to know that. You're the only one who cares about the outcome.

Edited, Feb 17th 2012 6:13pm by gbaji
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#357 Feb 17 2012 at 8:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:


I don't worry much about what other random people on the interwebs think of me. But apparently, you place great stock in it. Your choice, I suppose. But you can only eventually lose that game. You have to know that. You're the only one who cares about the outcome.
That's why you spend so much time typing up your views

Edited, Feb 17th 2012 8:37pm by Sweetums
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gbaji wrote:
But this isn't an audience. This is an interactive communication medium.

So when you're told you're failing at communicating, maybe you should pay attention.

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When you say I refuse to "adjust accordingly", you're not talking about writing style though. I could be just as long winded, but if I were a liberal and this long winded, and as passionate about my positions...

...you'd be Shadowrelm. Yeah, we all called him the "best, smartest, sexiest, etc advocate for the liberal causes around" Smiley: laugh
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#359 Feb 18 2012 at 9:44 AM Rating: Default
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I think we've reached the point now, where anyone who thought that Alma added some kind of "character" or "interest" to the forum (*cough* Ari *cough*) should give up that notion.

He's not even sparking any lively debate or back-and-forth anymore (if he ever did, but that's another matter). He just copypastes his own posts in every thread he's in, and invariably turns every single debate into a series of "NO U"s.

Sure, you can get a mild giggle out of the fact that his debate skill never evolved past toddler-level. But even that joke has gotten stale and sad.

Just ban the guy already. For spamming, if nothing else.

Edited, Feb 13th 2012 2:59pm by Eske

Also, he only participates in threads where some sort of sexuality is involved. Poly relationships, abortion, gay marriage, etc. Among all his hang-ups, we can see where his most severe one lies.


Oh, really?

Besides the obvious "abortion argument" being a stretch, you're only remembering the "sex" threads.

I've participated in numerous religious, Christmas, evolution, creation of universe threads.

I've argued against the stupid belief that a population less than 1/2 of 1 percent can accurately represent the entire population on multiple arguments

I've engaged in racial arguments from the racist belief that women of a certain color are inherently ugly, racial discrimination,

I created and engaged in a 20+ pager on the lack of U.S. identity.

I engaged in political threads during the 2008 election, pro-Clinton.

I remember having an in depth argument about drug usage on a stoner thread.

I've taken part in economy/health care/school threads

I engaged in many derails to include, the U.S. legal system, the U.S. constitution, etc.


This is all from not doing any research.. the reality is that I've taken part in several threads. You all are just so pro ****, that it's all that you remember.
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#361 Feb 18 2012 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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If you can make a list of the non-sex topics you've posted in, I think the original statement still applies. Sure, "only" might be an overstatement. But it's not like it's a significant one.
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Oh I see. So because I am not willing to commit to one person, I am immature?


If that's the life that you want to live because you don't see anyone that is worth you settling down, then no. If you have found a person that you would want to settle down with, but chooses not to because you want to have several partners, then yes.

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Yeah, I don't think so... I know a couple who live in Eugene who are in their 60's, and have been together for over 40 years. They've been poly the entire time. They have a third person in their relationship now (I know she's involved with the guy, not sure about the other woman) that has been with them for over 10. Are they immature too? I suppose according to you they would be.


Read above. Age doesn't mean anything. I know old guys who have been married for decades, with grown married children who actively cheat with as many young women that they can find (many times younger than their children).... That's immature. However, if there is a prior agreement, then not necessarily. Once again, read above.

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You can keep saying that until you're blue in the face, it doesn't make it true.


You denying it doesn't make it false.

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I only would be replacing them if I saw them as of equal value.


False. Equal value is irrelevant. You can replace your old boyfriend with a new boyfriend and love/hate them completely differently. If you're looking for a perfect match, then why ever break up? Who's being "literal" now?!?!

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Basically what this boils down to is, you have no idea what my love life is like. You clearly don't understand it, or what it is about. That's fine, just don't act like you do know, because you've made it quite obvious that you don't.


I'm not pretending to know anything more than what you present. You state that you are wired to be in poly relations, however it appears that you are clearly in love with your number one and would be willing to accept a monogamous relation with him if given an ultimatum.
#363 Feb 22 2012 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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POD wrote:
Oh I see. So because I am not willing to commit to one person, I am immature?


If that's the life that you want to live because you don't see anyone that is worth you settling down, then no. If you have found a person that you would want to settle down with, but chooses not to because you want to have several partners, then yes.

I'm not pretending to know anything more than what you present. You state that you are wired to be in poly relations, however it appears that you are clearly in love with your number one and would be willing to accept a monogamous relation with him if given an ultimatum.


If you want to think that I am immature, just because you don't agree with my chosen lifestyle, fine. I think I am more pre-disposed to be in poly relationships, but I'm pretty sure I've already mentioned that I have been in monogamous relationships before and was perfectly content with those. At least, before I realized that my partner and I weren't compatible.
#364 Feb 22 2012 at 5:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think you're immature because you keep responding to Alma, but that's just me.
#365 Feb 22 2012 at 6:10 PM Rating: Excellent
Heh, well I'm done now.
#366Almalieque, Posted: Feb 22 2012 at 9:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Don't put words in my mouth. I'm only calling you "immature" if you fit the conditions that you quoted.
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