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#952 Mar 21 2012 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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Joph votes like he posts, way too ******* much.
#953 Mar 21 2012 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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#954 Mar 21 2012 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
Democrats voting at all means there's voting fraud going on.

The fraud stops when they vote GOP, of course.
#955 Mar 22 2012 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
You can all blame Santorum's Illinois loss on me since I grabbed a Democratic ballot yesterday afternoon.
This is why we can't have nice things. Smiley: mad
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#956 Mar 22 2012 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
Latest lulz from the Santorum camp:

"I don't care what the unemployment rate is."

Does this mean we can't discuss the unemployment rate re: Obama? Since it's clearly not something the president needs to care about.
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Romney finally has an argument that he's good for the economy: Ohio Art stock is up 141% today after his campaign's Etch-A-Sketch comments Smiley: laugh
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#958 Mar 23 2012 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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With his heart warming and convincing discussion about grits, how could Etch-a-Sketch not profit from his endorsement?
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#959 Mar 23 2012 at 8:03 AM Rating: Excellent
catwho wrote:
Latest lulz from the Santorum camp:

"I don't care what the unemployment rate is."

Does this mean we can't discuss the unemployment rate re: Obama? Since it's clearly not something the president needs to care about.

Blessed are the unemployed with no benefits under a right wing administration, for they shall starve to death and get to heaven quicker.
#960 Mar 26 2012 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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catwho wrote:
Latest lulz from the Santorum camp:

"I don't care what the unemployment rate is."

Does this mean we can't discuss the unemployment rate re: Obama? Since it's clearly not something the president needs to care about.
Blessed are the unemployed with no benefits under a right wing administration, for they shall starve to death and get to heaven quicker.
If they'd rather die, then they had better do it and decrease the surplus population. Good night, gentlemen.
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#961 Mar 28 2012 at 7:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Romney's health insurance plan for the uninsured: If you didn't have enough to afford insurance when you were well, sucks to be you should you ever get sick.
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Jay Leno pushed Mitt Romney last night "to explain what he would offer Americans with pre-existing medical conditions so that they might retain their coverage, perhaps the most popular provision of the president's health care law," NBC News reports.

Romeny: "People with pre-existing conditions, as long as they have been insured before, they are going to be able to continue to have insurance."

Leno: "Suppose they haven't been insured."

Romney: "If they are 45 years old and they show up and say I want insurance because I have heart disease, it's like, 'Hey guys. We can't play the game like that. You've got to get insurance when you are well and then if you get ill, you are going to be covered.'"
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#962 Mar 28 2012 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Speaking of health care, Santorum going ape shit on a reporter about what he said about Romney was amusing to watch.
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#963 Mar 28 2012 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Romney's health insurance plan for the uninsured: If you didn't have enough to afford insurance when you were well, sucks to be you should you ever get sick.
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Jay Leno pushed Mitt Romney last night "to explain what he would offer Americans with pre-existing medical conditions so that they might retain their coverage, perhaps the most popular provision of the president's health care law," NBC News reports.

Romeny: "People with pre-existing conditions, as long as they have been insured before, they are going to be able to continue to have insurance."

Leno: "Suppose they haven't been insured."

Romney: "If they are 45 years old and they show up and say I want insurance because I have heart disease, it's like, 'Hey guys. We can't play the game like that. You've got to get insurance when you are well and then if you get ill, you are going to be covered.'"
I don't know what to say. I mean, that's how insurance works.


The only way to truly get away from it is to drop this crappy health insurance thing and go to universal healthcare. Stop lollygagging and get it done properly.
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I don't know what to say. I mean, that's how insurance works.

Sure. However, that shouldn't necessarily be how healthcare works. A healthcare system that says "fuck you if you couldn't afford insurance before you got sick" is a **** poor system and that's the one Romney is advocating.

Not that you disagree given your second remark, I'm just making the point.
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#965 Mar 28 2012 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
A healthcare system that says "fuck you if you couldn't afford insurance before you got sick" is a **** poor system and that's the one Romney is advocating.
Wholehearted agreement.

I imagine there's a fair number of people, who over the economic downturn, lost their insurance and ended up getting diagnosed with something. Using his reasoning, these people are fucked now once they get back on their feet and can afford insurance again.
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#966 Mar 28 2012 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
A healthcare system that says "fuck you if you couldn't afford insurance before you got sick" is a **** poor system and that's the one Romney is advocating.
Wholehearted agreement.

I imagine there's a fair number of people, who over the economic downturn, lost their insurance and ended up getting diagnosed with something. Using his reasoning, these people are fucked now once they get back on their feet and can afford insurance again.

Not to mention all the problems that come up if you need to switch health care providers. My current health care provider only exists in like 3 states across the country, so if I ever have to move I'm gonna be having to fight my way into a new system given that I now have pre-existing conditions. You know, stuff that just comes about as a result of going through life as a normal human being.
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#967 Mar 28 2012 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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***** you for being a normal human being.
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#968 Mar 28 2012 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
I don't know what to say. I mean, that's how insurance works.

Sure. However, that shouldn't necessarily be how healthcare works.


So we're all in agreement that Obama care is not how health care should work? Great! That's what we conservatives have been saying for 2 years now. Welcome to the side of the sane!
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Sure. Plenty I'd change about the current plan. But the current plan is still much closer to my idealized version than anything I've heard from the GOP and especially Gov. Romney's remarks last night.

But I'm glad you feel we agree. Welcome to the side of the sane! Smiley: smile

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 12:34pm by Jophiel
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#970 Mar 28 2012 at 11:38 AM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
Sure. Plenty I'd change about the current plan. But the current plan is still much closer to my idealized version than anything I've heard from the GOP and especially Gov. Romney's remarks last night.


So a plan that mandates a health care purchasing method that you believe is the wrong way to do health care is "closer to your idealized version"? How?

I can only conclude that it's not really closer at all, but more broken, thus increasing the odds of some future move to a system that is actually closer to your idealized version. Am I close?
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So a plan that mandates a health care purchasing method that you believe is the wrong way to do health care is "closer to your idealized version...

...than anything I've heard from the GOP and especially Gov. Romney's remarks last night"

LERN2QUOTE
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#972 Mar 28 2012 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you even dignify that with a response Joph, I'm rating you down.
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#973 Mar 28 2012 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can only conclude that it's not really closer at all, but more broken, thus increasing the odds of some future move to a system that is actually closer to your idealized version.
When it's the conclusion you're told to arrive at, yeah, you can only conclude that.
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#974 Mar 28 2012 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you even dignify that with a response Joph, I'm rating you down.

Too late!

My karma! Smiley: cry
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#975 Mar 28 2012 at 11:52 AM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So a plan that mandates a health care purchasing method that you believe is the wrong way to do health care is "closer to your idealized version...

...than anything I've heard from the GOP and especially Gov. Romney's remarks last night"


But not closer than simply not passing Obamacare in the first place, right? So even if the GOP has no plan at all other than repealing Obamacare, it's better than Obamacare.
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#976 Mar 28 2012 at 11:56 AM Rating: Default
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Oh. And if we're on the topic of GOP plans, isn't the whole private health accounts idea closer as well? So instead of paying for insurance, which you pay more for when you're young and healthy than you get out of it and which might change or be canceled at some future date when you actually need it, you pay into your own account and then draw on it later in life (or when you get sick). Wouldn't that fix the problems of insurance and pre-existing conditions and whatnot?

Let's not kid ourselves, it's not about insurance companies and pre-existing conditions. It's about the desire by the left to put the government in control of health care. And they use the promise of a free lunch to get people on board.
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