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#52 Dec 07 2011 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Driftwood wrote:
If Iran shot it down, then that implies that it was being flown through Iranian airspace without permission, and hence could actually be seen as an act of aggression by the USA.
Well, that assumes that it was actively being flown over Iranian airspace, and it hadn't malfunctioned and drifted in. Most of the time those things are flown around borders anyway to keep watch of traffic, and most of the crap we use is built by companies that bid low enough to get our attention and still charged more than the work deserved. These things go down quite frequently, they just don't make news unless someone else recovers them.

Anyway, can't really say one way or the other because absent any real evidence both sides are going to plead their innocence.
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#53 Dec 07 2011 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Driftwood wrote:
If Iran shot it down, then that implies that it was being flown through Iranian airspace without permission, and hence could actually be seen as an act of aggression by the USA.
Well, that assumes that it was actively being flown over Iranian airspace, and it hadn't malfunctioned and drifted in.

Either way the thing was certainly in Iranian airspace, however it got there, so the "pretext" for a war is gone, from the US point of view. Iran may have a pretext now but they sure as **** aren't going to start a war with the US so it doesn't matter.
#54 Dec 07 2011 at 12:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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#55varusword75, Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 1:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why is it crazy to think Obama would give away technology to radical muslims? He already gave them Egypt.
#56 Dec 07 2011 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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I like that you conveniently left out the Iran-Contra Affair.
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#57 Dec 07 2011 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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What's insane is you liberals thinking that everything bad that happens is just a coincidence.


If it wasn't coincidence, if it was planned by a dirty liberal leader then it's not 'bad'. Right?

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#58 Dec 07 2011 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Iran wouldn't be where it is today without Reagan sucking terrorist ****. These days they need to shoot down our drones for intel but back in the good ole days, Ronnie couldn't hand the terrorists US military technology fast enough.
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#59varusword75, Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 2:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Lagaga,
#60 Dec 07 2011 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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That would be "feign ignorance" if anyone believed your ignorance wasn't genuine.
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#61 Dec 07 2011 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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Unless, of course, it landed exactly were it was supposed to.

Thanks for continuing to toe the conservative conspiracy line. Gbaji will be along shortly to say "Not that Varus is right, but he's totally right..."

"I'm not saying it's conspiracy...

but it's conspiracy."
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#62 Dec 07 2011 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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varusword75 wrote:
Why is it crazy to think Obama would give away technology to radical muslims? He already gave them Egypt.

Clinton sold technology to the chi-coms. This is what democrats do.


What's insane is you liberals thinking that everything bad that happens is just a coincidence.



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6. In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran. President Reagan decided that the United States would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran. President Reagan formalized this policy by issuing a National Security Decision Directive ("NSDD") to this effect in June, 1982. I have personal knowledge of this NSDD because I co-authored the NSDD with another NSC Staff Member, Geoff Kemp. The NSDD, including even its identifying number, is classified.

7. CIA Director Casey personally spearheaded the effort to ensure that Iraq had sufficient military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to avoid losing the Iran-Iraq war. Pursuant to the secret NSDD, the United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required. The United States also provided strategic operational advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat. For example, in 1986, President Reagan sent a secret message to Saddam Hussein telling him that Iraq should step up its air war and bombing of Iran. This message was delivered by Vice President Bush who communicated it to Egyptian President Mubarak, who in turn passed the message to Saddam Hussein. Similar strategic operational military advice was passed to Saddam Hussein through various meetings with European and Middle Eastern heads of state. I authored Bush's talking points for the 1986 meeting with Mubarak and personally attended numerous meetings with European and Middle East heads of state where the strategic operational advice was communicated.

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#63 Dec 07 2011 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Unless, of course, it landed exactly were it was supposed to.

Thanks for continuing to toe the conservative conspiracy line. Gbaji will be along shortly to say "Not that Varus is right, but he's totally right..."

"I'm not saying it's conspiracy...

but it's conspiracy."


"Lol. Obviously, I don't agree with what he's saying. But what I think is telling, is that everyone is so quick to dismiss the possibility that there's something not quite right going on here. And you can't deny that Obama has been taking a soft stance on Iran. What concerns me, is that the liberal media isn't investigating the issue, and that they and this administration are still trying to systematically dismantle the military. You can bet that if a Republican was in office, this wouldn't have happened."

I dunno. Something like that, I'd wager.
#64 Dec 07 2011 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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"Be careful that is a real slippery slope to be walking on Eske. The conservative media has been on top of this since day one. If you could only pry yourself from the liberal mainstream you would know this. Show me one case ha five cases where a republican president was in office when american miltary technology went to our enemies or potential enemies, presently or in the past.

This is 200x above your understanding."

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#65 Dec 07 2011 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is literally 200x above your understanding.

Repaired.
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#66 Dec 07 2011 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Unless, of course, it landed exactly were it was supposed to.

Thanks for continuing to toe the conservative conspiracy line. Gbaji will be along shortly to say "Not that Varus is right, but he's totally right..."

"I'm not saying it's conspiracy...

but it's conspiracy."


"Lol. Obviously, I don't agree with what he's saying. But what I think is telling, is that everyone is so quick to dismiss the possibility that there's something not quite right going on here. And you can't deny that Obama has been taking a soft stance on Iran. What concerns me, is that the liberal media isn't investigating the issue, and that they and this administration are still trying to systematically dismantle the military. You can bet that if a Republican was in office, this wouldn't have happened."

I dunno. Something like that, I'd wager.


So the president showed up and told the airman flying the thing to look the other way while he hit the reset button?

I'm not sure what part you're having a problem believing. I doubt anybody is arguing that we're spying on Iran, so there isn't much point in arguing why it was there in the first place. As far as "losing" it, it happens. It's a covert ops device designed to be undetected, meaning it's probably controlled by a LoS satellite connection. If the LoS was lost for whatever reason it may have changed course, meaning it wasn't where it should have been when the LoS was clear. Kind of hard to locate and reconnect with something specifically designed to be invisible to technology if you don't know where it went.

As far as dismantling the military, it's the popular course of action right now. The people don't like the war and they don't have any money. So, end the war and take the money from the military. Easy reelection. What people don't seem to understand is that if you significantly downsize the military, all those people have to get jobs elsewhere. And there are programs in place that give preferential treatment to retired military, meaning an even smaller pool to play in.
#67 Dec 07 2011 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Did you just misquote or are you that fucking out of the loop?
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#68 Dec 07 2011 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Did you just misquote or are you that fucking out of the loop?


I only pop in here on occasion, so I may have completely misread it.
#69 Dec 07 2011 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Did you just misquote or are you that fucking out of the loop?

Air quotes around something mean that you're especially serious about it!
#70varusword75, Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 3:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Rao,
#71 Dec 07 2011 at 3:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Majivo wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Did you just misquote or are you that fucking out of the loop?

Air quotes around something mean that you're especially serious about it!


Aw, you guys suck. If you had given me a second, I was gonna run with that and see how long I could string him along. Smiley: bah
#72 Dec 07 2011 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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As far as "losing" it, it happens


Well shucks I guess that's just the way it is when multi-million dollar very sophisticated tech is given to radical muslims.


Aren't you an insurance agent? ********** happens" is pretty much what your entire industry is built around.
#73varusword75, Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 4:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Rao,
#74 Dec 07 2011 at 4:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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At what point did they deny it happened?
#75 Dec 07 2011 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gumbo Galahad wrote:
Liberals and the media gave Obama credit for taking out bin laden. Now that tech is missing shouldn't he also stand up and take the blame and promise to get it back?
As soon as the last guy stands up and promises to get back the 70 that were lost during his administration.
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#76 Dec 07 2011 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm liberal and I don't hate the military. My wife is in the military and has been for 8 years. In fact I support the military to no end, I just don't agree with the war like most soldiers and pogues I know.

Try harder with your generalizations.
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