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#77 Nov 19 2011 at 7:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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If people are mad that their kids are being fed pizza and french fries, then why not push for a less completely @#%^ing stupid, system?

Like, maybe they should pass standards saying not to serve those things unless they meet certain minimum nutritional guidelines?



No. I think the system I grew up with is much better.
The one with the kids eating the fast food?
#78 Nov 19 2011 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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As I noted in edit, the "system you grew up with" is the same system that's been in place since the 1940s.
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#79 Nov 19 2011 at 8:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Driftwood wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Driftwood wrote:
If people are mad that their kids are being fed pizza and french fries, then why not push for a less completely @#%^ing stupid, system?

Like, maybe they should pass standards saying not to serve those things unless they meet certain minimum nutritional guidelines?



No. I think the system I grew up with is much better.

You said low-income kids had their meals paid for. How is that different from now?
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I think Driftwood was under the impression that the NSLP gave everyone a free lunch.

Which is impossible. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
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#81 Nov 19 2011 at 8:20 AM Rating: Default
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Driftwood wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Driftwood wrote:
If people are mad that their kids are being fed pizza and french fries, then why not push for a less completely @#%^ing stupid, system?

Like, maybe they should pass standards saying not to serve those things unless they meet certain minimum nutritional guidelines?



No. I think the system I grew up with is much better.
The one with the kids eating the fast food?



The main points of my post were as follows:

1. Parents were in charge of what their kids ate for lunch at school until the kids were older. If a parent did not want their kid to eat the fast food, then the kid wouldn't be allowed to have any(barring friends giving them some) because they didn't have the signed slip with the money. Note also, that this was 1 day per week, if the parents never fed their kids fast food, then that was one meal out of an optimal 21 meals/week. Basically, as much of the control of the child's diet rests with the parent as possible.

2. At older age there was no fast food in the school, if kids wanted to eat McDonalds or something like that, they'd have to go during lunch break and spend their money and time doing so. There was a cafeteria, and it cost money to eat from it, there were both healthy and unhealthy foods offered. Result: The control of the child's diet slowly passes from the parent to the child as the child gets older.
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#82 Nov 19 2011 at 8:23 AM Rating: Default
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Which is impossible. There's no such thing as a free lunch.


If that is the case, then what's the issue? It's not like the parents have to give their kids money to eat the "unhealthy food".
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#83 Nov 19 2011 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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You said low-income kids had their meals paid for. How is that different from now?


The food was usually sandwiches and stuff(I had to eat there sometimes) and maybe orange juice. Run in a classroom Paid for by the local school board, not actually a law(at the time, don't know what laws there are here now regarding that sort of thing) as far as I know. The whole thing probably cost less than $100/day.
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#84 Nov 19 2011 at 8:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Driftwood wrote:
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You said low-income kids had their meals paid for. How is that different from now?


The food was usually sandwiches and stuff(I had to eat there sometimes) and maybe orange juice. Run in a classroom Paid for by the local school board, not actually a law(at the time, don't know what laws there are here now regarding that sort of thing) as far as I know. The whole thing probably cost less than $100/day.

They do the same thing at my son's school. If a kid can't pay and isn't on the free/reduced lunch program, they get a sandwich.
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Driftwood wrote:
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If that is the case, then what's the issue?

Smiley: dubious

It was... a joke.
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The food was usually sandwiches and stuff(I had to eat there sometimes) and maybe orange juice. Run in a classroom Paid for by the local school board, not actually a law(at the time, don't know what laws there are here now regarding that sort of thing) as far as I know. The whole thing probably cost less than $100/day.

If the local school board is paying for it, they can serve whatever they want. The standards mentioned in the OP only apply if the school district voluntarily applies to receive federal NSLP grant money and only applies to the subsidized meals themselves. If a school decides as a matter of practicality to have only one or two menus, that's up to them.

Getting worked up (not you specifically) over the idea that the government should actually say "Hey, here's the money you asked for and here's what you're allowed to spend it on" seems ridiculous, especially when you're getting hysterical over "liberty". Just don't ask for the money.


Edited, Nov 19th 2011 8:39am by Jophiel
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#86 Nov 19 2011 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Nadenu wrote:
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You said low-income kids had their meals paid for. How is that different from now?


The food was usually sandwiches and stuff(I had to eat there sometimes) and maybe orange juice. Run in a classroom Paid for by the local school board, not actually a law(at the time, don't know what laws there are here now regarding that sort of thing) as far as I know. The whole thing probably cost less than $100/day.

They do the same thing at my son's school. If a kid can't pay and isn't on the free/reduced lunch program, they get a sandwich.



Then as I already mentioned, I don't understand the issue if the kids aren't being force-fed pizza and french fries.
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#87 Nov 19 2011 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
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If that is the case, then what's the issue?

Smiley: dubious

It was... a joke.


My mistake, never heard of the saying before.
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#88 Nov 19 2011 at 9:24 AM Rating: Default
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I think if parents of these children want to have them eating healthy they should get up early or stay up late and make them a god **** lunch. Why should it be the schools and governments responsibility to raise your child for you.

I think it is an absurd story, and a waste of money and time.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 10:25am by rdmcandie
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#89 Nov 19 2011 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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rdmcandie wrote:
I think if parents of these children want to have them eating healthy they should get up early or stay up late and make them a god **** lunch. Why should it be the schools and governments responsibility to raise your child for you.

I think it is an absurd story, and a waste of money and time.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 10:25am by rdmcandie

Go smoke some more weed and shut up.
#90 Nov 19 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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When I smoke weed I actually talk more, but I will do my best at the shutting up.
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#91 Nov 19 2011 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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When I smoke weed I actually talk more, but I will do my best at the shutting up.

My ex was like that. One of the many reasons he's my ex.
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rdmcandie wrote:
I think if parents of these children want to have them eating healthy they should get up early or stay up late and make them a god **** lunch.

Technically, it's the government who wants them to be eating a nutritious meal if they're the ones paying for it. Hence the whole point of the NSLP being "to safeguard the health and well-being of the Nation's children and to encourage the consumption of nutritious agricultural commodities and other food". So if you want your kids eating unhealthy, the thing to do would be to stay up late and pack them a lunch full of the most salt and sugar laden products money can buy.
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#93 Nov 19 2011 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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I figured you'd stir the salt and sugar right into the lard and dump it in their bag.

Maybe fry the outside of it first for texture.
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Fry it? I thought we wanted them to eat it, not whip it at cars.
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#96 Nov 19 2011 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Everybody understands that this program was started because of the high percentage of draftees who were declared 4F due to chronic malnutrition during WWII, right? That this program was put in place for the benefit of the military?

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 1:34pm by Bijou
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Stoopid double.Smiley: mad

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 1:35pm by Bijou
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Last week, I saw a guy with an eyepatch and a gold monocle and pointed him out to Flea as one of the most awesome things I've seen, ever. If I had an eyepatch and a gold monocle, I'd always dress up as Mr. Peanut but with a hook hand and a parrot.
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When I smoke weed I actually talk more, but I will do my best at the shutting up.

My ex was like that. One of the many reasons he's my ex.


and i care why?
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And, today, it's estimated that 25% of the population is too fat to join the military.

Well, Gbaji says that "nutrition" means to just shove them full of whatever the fuck we have laying around just so they don't die in the streets so he's probably right. Gbaji's always right when he's defining words for us in ways that make no sense on the surface, but I'm certain that it's just... obvious?

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 2:44pm by Jophiel
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#100 Nov 19 2011 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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rdmcandie wrote:
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rdmcandie wrote:
When I smoke weed I actually talk more, but I will do my best at the shutting up.

My ex was like that. One of the many reasons he's my ex.


and i care why?

I thought I told you to shut up.
#101 Nov 19 2011 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm. Steak, or "vegetable" tonight for dinner?
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