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#202varusword75, Posted: Nov 10 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) JOph,
#203varusword75, Posted: Nov 10 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Locked,
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Gumbo Galahad wrote:
I did admit Obama told the nation that God told him God liked his jobs/stimulus/tax increase plan.
So you admit God is with Obama.
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#205varusword75, Posted: Nov 10 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Turns out the odds that Cain is telling the truth is at least 95%;
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varusword75 wrote:
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Varus admits that an Obama victory is due to God's power


What? Are you having one of those days?

I did admit Obama told the nation that God told him God liked his jobs/stimulus/tax increase plan.


And that if he wins, it's a miracle. Miracles, if I remember my Bible, come from God. Ergo, if Obama wins, it's because God wanted it to be.
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#207varusword75, Posted: Nov 10 2011 at 2:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Locked,
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Turns out the odds that Cain is telling the truth is at least 95%;
Ward used a "$15,000 program" on a televised speech and it said it was Low Risk. Sounds legit, and I'm sure admissible in a court of law.

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And that if he wins, it's a miracle. Miracles, if I remember my Bible, come from God. Ergo, if Obama wins, it's because God wanted it to be.


Sure if you want to put it like that.



Your words, little buddy.
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#210 Nov 10 2011 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Actually it's closer to 5points.

53-38 according to the most recent poll (NBC/WSJ through Nov 5th).

That's ignoring the polls showing Obama trouncing Cain in swing states like Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Edited, Nov 10th 2011 2:35pm by Jophiel
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#211varusword75, Posted: Nov 10 2011 at 2:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lagaga,
#212varusword75, Posted: Nov 10 2011 at 2:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
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Just for the record, because apparently I'm the only one that has any law enforcement knowledge, the program in question detects stress levels via speech recognition. So, you know, someone who's accustomed to making speeches would appear to be unstressed (especially on television) while speaking as well as the opposite. It's actually been said to be less reliable in detecting lies than a standard polygraph by the National Academy of Sciences. In fact, after testing by the Pentagon they called it "No better than flipping a coin."

So ... more Smiley: lol
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I would bet good money
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All the polls pitting a generic republican against obama are tied.

(A) The same poll that used to show Obama losing to said "generic Republican" by eight points and now have Obama ahead by a point? Nice 9 point swing Smiley: smile
(B) Cain isn't a "generic Republican" but I understand why you'd want to use polls that don't mention him by name over those that do and show him losing in a landslide.
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I'll say it:

Obama is sexier than Cain.

******** Michelle is one lucky woman.[/sm]

In terms of "attractive gentleman" score, only Romney really comes close to Obama, and even then, the plastic Ken doll smile gets creepy after a while.
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[From a different thread, so as to not hijack that one]
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She admitted to working out with him.

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Nice try though.

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We need to be investigating who's paying her bills there

Since she currently lives in Mundelein, IL and not in Lake Point Tower, I'd guess... no one?

Edited, Nov 11th 2011 9:21am by Jophiel
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It's a good thing he wants to get rid of education... lolrepublican

Yes I deserve to be rated down for derailing a cain thread with perry... but I had to lol somewhere

Edited, Nov 11th 2011 9:18pm by Olorinus
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Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
All the polls pitting a generic republican against obama are tied.

(A) The same poll that used to show Obama losing to said "generic Republican" by eight points and now have Obama ahead by a point? Nice 9 point swing Smiley: smile
(B) Cain isn't a "generic Republican" but I understand why you'd want to use polls that don't mention him by name over those that do and show him losing in a landslide.

I just heard the "Generic Republican" bit on the news again today, and I thought to myself, gbaji would be their best bet ;)
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Generic Republicans never flip-flopped on a position and never had any problems in their personal life.


Edit: A generic Republican doesn't say this either. Smiley: laugh

Edited, Nov 14th 2011 7:41pm by Jophiel
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Do you have one of his brilliant "For every one person that accused me, there are thousands that haven't" defense?

EDIT: Found this, and a case could easily be made that what he meant was that for every accuser, there are a thousand people that would say he would never harass anyone, but still a bad choice of phrase.

Edited, Nov 14th 2011 9:24pm by lolgaxe
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Jophiel wrote:
Celinda Lake wrote:
Generic Republicans never flip-flopped on a position and never had any problems in their personal life.


Edit: A generic Republican doesn't say this either. Smiley: laugh

Edited, Nov 14th 2011 7:41pm by Jophiel


Must be tough to collect your thoughts on an issue when they aren't actually your own.
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Jophiel wrote:
Celinda Lake wrote:
Generic Republicans never flip-flopped on a position and never had any problems in their personal life.


Edit: A generic Republican doesn't say this either. Smiley: laugh


Must be tough to collect your thoughts on an issue when they aren't actually your own.


Yeah. He looked like he was trying to remember what the correct answer was and not just speaking on the subject. To be fair to him, this was a taped interview and not live, so he likely expected he could take time to collect his thoughts and answer, but that's still pretty darn pathetic. How do you not have an answer to that question, or at least the ability to say *something* on the subject?
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He kept wanting his answer to be "I'd have gotten better information" but then had to admit that he he no idea what information the administration had and finally had to admit that maybe they were right. But he still would have gotten better information.
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He kept wanting his answer to be "I'd have gotten better information" but then had to admit that he he no idea what information the administration had and finally had to admit that maybe they were right. But he still would have gotten better information.


Yeah. Once he actually figured out what topic he was discussing. And that's a pretty horrible answer this far into the process anyway. Medved had a good thought on that today. He said something about why should we expect him to have people around him to provide him with that information once he's president if he can't get people around him to provide him with that information today? It's a valid point, but honestly while I don't expect a president to know everything about everything, I do expect them to know enough about most things to be able to weigh in with an opinion. You can get away with "I'd have people to provide me with good information" 0-1 times depending on the candidate.

This *wasn't* a gotcha question either. It wasn't a request to recall a specific example on some random subject the interviewer came up with, but a question about a position on a relevant major recent foreign policy issue. About the only even slight gotcha-esque part of the question was the interviewer was asking him whether he agreed or disagreed with Obama on the issue, without clearly outlying what exact aspect of the issue he was referring to. But honestly, if you don't have an opinion already about Obama's actions in Libya and the outcome, and can't speak at least semi-intelligently about the subject, you've seriously failed to study your foreign policy.


Is this where I pipe up with the same "There's a reason we tend to elect career politicians" bit? I like Cain. I think he's got some interesting ideas and a willingness to say what he thinks, but he's hitting every single branch of the political-fail tree.

Edited, Nov 15th 2011 3:22pm by gbaji
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At least his tax plan wasn't "Nine, Nine, and a number I can't remember."
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