Then he started saying the data didn't matter at all
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My favorite part of the discussion was how Gbaji didn't have any of the "dots" since he was basing his "conclusions" solely off a summery of a conclusion. I had actually looked up the study itself via a journal search (from my old college account) and could read the entire study. I pointed this out to him numerous times.
Then he started saying the data didn't matter at all
Then he started saying the data didn't matter at all
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Was this the thread where he informed us he could read data better then experts because he wasn't an expert?
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I'm pretty sure it was. But you need to use scare quotes around "expert" each time so you'll know they're not nearly as qualified as him.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Any "specialist" in a field is automatically disqualified from actually saying anything about said field because they're part of the machine.
Edited, Nov 1st 2011 10:24pm by Xsarus
Edited, Nov 1st 2011 10:24pm by Xsarus
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I was most amused that someone with a lot of intellectual skill but absolutely no intellectual traits was trying to claim his job was what gave him superior critical thinking abilities.
George Carlin wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
I was most amused that someone with a lot of intellectual skill but absolutely no intellectual traits was trying to claim his job was what gave him superior critical thinking abilities.
Shocked! I am SHOCKED!!
remorajunbao wrote:
One day I'm going to fly to Canada and open the curtains in your office.
gbaji wrote:
Whether you agree or disagree isn't really the point. If a majority of the parents of the students in a given school don't want their kids learning something, should the government act contrary to that desire?
Edited, Nov 2nd 2011 7:48am by Lubriderm
Duke Lubriderm wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Whether you agree or disagree isn't really the point. If a majority of the parents of the students in a given school don't want their kids learning something, should the government act contrary to that desire?
Edited, Nov 2nd 2011 7:48am by Lubriderm
Of course not. He's only suggesting that a school curriculum be based on direct democracy when it supports his values.
Duh.
Duke Lubriderm wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Whether you agree or disagree isn't really the point. If a majority of the parents of the students in a given school don't want their kids learning something, should the government act contrary to that desire?
Of course I realize how this could be a bad idea. But it's less bad than the alternative, which is a group of appointed social engineers setting the curriculum instead. And... In case you missed it, this very problem crops up because we have a school system which gives parents very very little choice about where their children go to school.
Ideally, I'd prefer the consumers of a product (education in this case) to have many choices and pick the one they like the most. If the government came in tomorrow and made it so that only the wealthy could afford to buy anything but the state issued standard shoes, you can bet that there'd be just as much political fighting over what style, colors, shapes, etc those standard shoes came in. We create this conflict because we have an education system designed pretty much directly to maximize the amount of control the government has over what is taught.
The conservative answer is to not do this in the first place. And sometimes, the only way to get liberals to realize what a bad idea our current methodology is, is to propose changes to it that they don't like. Pretty straightforward IMO.
King Nobby wrote:
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ITT: gbaji disses concept of government, calls it "social engineering".
Eske Esquire wrote:
ITT: gbaji disses concept of government, calls it "social engineering".
Gbaji (and people like him) don't want the government to interfere in his life. Just the lives of others.
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Solrain wrote:
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LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Funny, since Gabji has shown he's all for conservative social engineering.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Nilatai wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
ITT: gbaji disses concept of government, calls it "social engineering".
Gbaji (and people like him) don't want the government to interfere in his life. Just the lives of others.
I'm not sure how you arrive anywhere remotely near that conclusion based on my statements in this thread. I'm advocating a course of action to minimize the degree to which government gets to decide the specifics of any/every child's education, by giving parents greater choices regarding which schools they send their kids to. WTF?
King Nobby wrote:
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Jophiel wrote:
Funny, since Gabji has shown he's all for conservative social engineering.
Funny how conservative social engineering looks just a hell of a lot like minimizing government's ability to control our lives.
King Nobby wrote:
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Funny how you've convinced yourself that so you can still use a mirror 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
ITT: gbaji disses concept of government, calls it "social engineering".
Gbaji (and people like him) don't want the government to interfere in his life. Just the lives of others.
I'm not sure how you arrive anywhere remotely near that conclusion based on my statements in this thread. I'm advocating a course of action to minimize the degree to which government gets to decide the specifics of any/every child's education, by giving parents greater choices regarding which schools they send their kids to. WTF?
The problem is, the kids parents are stupid. What makes you think parents will be any better at choosing what their kid learns in school than the already inept school boards? Last I checked, school boards were made up of kids' parents!!
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nilatai wrote:
The problem is, the kids parents are stupid. What makes you think parents will be any better at choosing what their kid learns in school than the already inept school boards? Last I checked, school boards were made up of kids' parents!!
Ah... So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away. It's for their own good!
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
The problem is, the kids parents are stupid. What makes you think parents will be any better at choosing what their kid learns in school than the already inept school boards? Last I checked, school boards were made up of kids' parents!!
Ah... So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away. It's for their own good!
It's that or let your country continue down it's slow path towards a second dark age. Are you so blind to see people in your country are getting dumber by the decade? Especially when it comes to scientific literacy.
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nilatai wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
The problem is, the kids parents are stupid. What makes you think parents will be any better at choosing what their kid learns in school than the already inept school boards? Last I checked, school boards were made up of kids' parents!!
Ah... So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away. It's for their own good!
It's that or let your country continue down it's slow path towards a second dark age. Are you so blind to see people in your country are getting dumber by the decade? Especially when it comes to scientific literacy.
Ah... well! If the stake of the country's survival is at stake, I guess that whole "liberty" thing is just overrated. By all means, let's give up our liberty to those who will make better choices for us than we will..... NOT! Sorry, I happen to believe that whatever dumbing down may be occurring is being caused by the increase of a government that protects the public from the consequences of their own choices. We need less of that, not more.
King Nobby wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
gbaji wrote:
Ah... So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away. It's for their own good!
Suddenly home schooling and private schools are illegal?
But bang that "Liberty!" drum harder. After all, you don't have to hear anyone else's opinion when you're whaling away on a drum
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away.
I'm for allowing people to have choices about what sort of sex ed curriculum their children are taught in school. Why are you against choice?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2011 5:23pm by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Ah... So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away. It's for their own good!
Suddenly home schooling and private schools are illegal?
Irrelevant. I could make the exact same point towards any curriculum requirements in public school. You want your kid to be taught comprehensive sex ed, well... private schools and home schooling aren't illegal, is they? It's kinda arbitrary, but as long as only one can be taught in any single school at any given time, the public is going to fight over it. The fact that any side could obtain exactly the curriculum they want for their kids via private schools or home schooling is pretty meaningless.
What is meaningful, on the other hand, is pointing out that as long as our tax dollars are funding our public education, there is always going to be an added opportunity cost to utilizing any other form of education which is not funded with that money. This creates pretty strong economic forces which result in most children attending public school, even when their parents aren't terribly happy about it. Some form of voucher system would at least eliminate that opportunity cost by ensuring that every parents got their tax dollars worth in education dollars for their child, while giving them choices about what school they attend.
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But bang that "Liberty!" drum harder. After all, you don't have to hear anyone else's opinion when you're whaling away on a drum
I'm reading, not hearing.
And forgive me, but when someone justifies deliberately structuring our public school system in a way so as to minimize choices parents by declaring that they'd make dumb choices anyway, I'm going to bring up the whole liberty thing. What's amazing to me is that said statement wasn't more roundly dismissed when it was made. It *should* be a statement that is anathema to anyone living in a society based on the principles of liberalism. Sometimes, it scares me how few people know what those principles are, much less recognize when someone proposes something that violates them.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So because people are too stupid to make good choices for themselves, lets take their choices away.
Could you repeat that in English? I honestly have no clue what you're trying to say. What we teach in sex ed doesn't "remove choices". It affects what children are taught. That's not the same thing.
Unless you're arguing that parents should not have a say about what their kids are taught in school? If so, then who gets to decide this? You don't see how that leads us to conflicts over curriculum? If we gave parents more choices, then we'd have less fighting, and more people would be happy.
King Nobby wrote:
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