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I think that laying low and letting everyone else in the GOP prove how moronic they are is indeed a good tactic right now.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Herman Cain on either the top of the bottom of the ticket gives me shivers of glee, because all the southern strategy Republicans like my in-laws will say **** it and stay home from the polls.
varusword75 wrote:
The GOP could nominate stalin with hitler
And would if only they could.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
varusword75 wrote:
Cat,
Cain and Paul ticket is the one i'm hoping for. The GOP could nominate stalin with hitler as his vp and they'd still beat obama.
Cain and Paul ticket is the one i'm hoping for. The GOP could nominate stalin with hitler as his vp and they'd still beat obama.
Yet oddly if Reagan was nominated today he'd probably be blasted by the GOP.
Edit: You know, assuming he was alive. Or not a zombie. Or didn't have Alzheimer's. Etc...
Edited, Sep 29th 2011 9:53am by LockeColeMA
Alzheimer Zombie is about the same intellectual level as varus.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
If Reagan was president, we wouldn't have to worry about those Iranian warships. Couple planeloads of surface-to-air missiles would buy Iran right off.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
That would be a great addition to the zombie mode in CoD: Black Ops; Kennedy, Nixon, McCarthy and Castro hunting down Zombie Lenin, Zombie Stalin, Zombie Archduke Ferdinand, etc.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
varusword75 wrote:
Debo,
Thing is you can't lay low when the economy is sh*t and it's yours and your parties fault.
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I think that laying low and letting everyone else in the GOP prove how moronic they are is indeed a good tactic right now
Thing is you can't lay low when the economy is sh*t and it's yours and your parties fault.
I agree. The GOP really should stand up and take responsibility for destroying the American middle class for political stake.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
varusword75 wrote:
lmao....yet until this year the dems have controlled congress the last 6yrs and all branches the last 3.
Face it the democrats just can't be trusted with the US economy.
Face it the democrats just can't be trusted with the US economy.
Hey...you were the one who just pointed out that a GOP candidate can't lay low while his party was ruining the economy.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
varusword75 wrote:
Nope biff. I was saying Obama can't lay low you were saying he should. And if I were a hardcore liberal i'd be suggesting obama hide as well.
Then you weren't participating in the same conversation. I was responding to this:
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Is Cain still running? He seems to have vanished completely. With how the debates are going for everyone else, that's actually a really good strategy on his part.
So...keep up, or keep out. Capisce?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
varusword75 wrote:
Did ya see where old barry can't even get the democrat senate to go along with his jobs bill?
So the GOP won't filibuster the bill, right?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Did ya see where old barry can't even get the democrat senate to go along with his jobs bill?
So the GOP won't filibuster the bill, right?
That's assuming they even let it get to the floor.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
varusword75 wrote:
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So...keep up, or keep out. Capisce?
Don't get mad at me because you have the education of a 1rst grader and don't know how to adequately articulate your thoughts.
Hey, it's not my fault you can't follow a conversation.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Did ya see where old barry can't even get the democrat senate to go along with his jobs bill?
So the GOP won't filibuster the bill, right?
Why would they need to filibuster the bill? It hasn't been introduced yet.
EDIT: The reason it hasn't been introduced is that Harry Reid can't even get enough Democrats to support the bill to get it by the Senate. Why does that never get mentioned? Why is it always the GOP's fault?
Edited, Sep 30th 2011 9:26am by MoebiusLord
MoebiusLord wrote:
EDIT: The reason it hasn't been introduced is that Harry Reid can't even get enough Democrats to support the bill to get it by the Senate. Why does that never get mentioned? Why is it always the GOP's fault?
You realize that 100% Democratic senator support wouldn't be enough to pass it so that's a pretty meaningless statement. Harry Reid doesn't have the votes to pass the "Give Kittens A Hug Act" if it's being filibustered.
Now, if the GOP wasn't filibustering (de facto via omnipresent threat), then Reid would need all 51 Democratic votes. My point, which apparently sailed right over your head, was that the GOP wouldn't be so confident that Reid couldn't get 51 votes that they'd back off a filibuster. So when the threshold is 60 votes and the full Democratic caucus holds 51, the "Haha!" about the votes falls a bit flat.
You people are acting as though waiting on vote counts before putting up a bill is something extraordinary and new.
Edited, Sep 30th 2011 9:51am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
EDIT: The reason it hasn't been introduced is that Harry Reid can't even get enough Democrats to support the bill to get it by the Senate. Why does that never get mentioned? Why is it always the GOP's fault?
You realize that 100% Democratic senator support wouldn't be enough to pass it so that's a pretty meaningless statement. Harry Reid doesn't have the votes to pass the "Give Kittens A Hug Act" if it's being filibustered.
Now, if the GOP wasn't filibustering (de facto via omnipresent threat), then Reid would need all 51 Democratic votes. My point, which apparently sailed right over your head, was that the GOP wouldn't be so confident that Reid couldn't get 51 votes that they'd back off a filibuster. So when the threshold is 60 votes and the full Democratic caucus holds 51, the "Haha!" about the votes falls a bit flat.
You people are acting as though waiting on vote counts before putting up a bill is something extraordinary and new.
I have not heard of or read of a filibuster threat for the President's "jobs bill", so if you have a link to something that'd be helpful. Even if there is a threat of GOP filibuster, that could be used as campaign fodder for the President. It would be a boon for a sagging performance rating for a failing president at a time when he could most use the help.
My point, which apparently sailed right over your head, is that the President is making all this noise about passing the bill and Congress dragging their feet, implying that it is the GOP stalling wherever he goes, when it is, in fact, the Democrat Senate Majority Leader that is not even introducing the bill in the Senate because he can't get enough support from his part to pass the bill.
Were the bill able to pass the Senate, he'd have ample opportunity to lambaste the GOP as it would be DOA in the House. I would be totally ok with that, but at this point the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of Harry Reid. He knows there would be no filibuster and that it would fail on its own merits with not enough Democrat support.
MoebiusLord wrote:
I have not heard of or read of a filibuster threat for the President's "jobs bill", so if you have a link to something that'd be helpful.
If it's honestly your belief that the GOP won't filibuster this bill, I don't see where I could have an honest discussion about it.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
That's one way to avoid answering the question. Maybe Moe will use it as well.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
I have not heard of or read of a filibuster threat for the President's "jobs bill", so if you have a link to something that'd be helpful.
If it's honestly your belief that the GOP won't filibuster this bill, I don't see where I could have an honest discussion about it.
Sorry you feel that way. Again, though, I have also not heard of an effort to do so, should it come up, or read a link with a threat to do so should it come up. I honestly can't think of a single good reason for the GOP to filibuster this vote, and I would be willing to put money on them not doing so if it comes up for a vote.
We'll never know, though, because the Democrat Majority Leader of the Senate won't introduce it, knowing his own members won't vote for it.
EDIT: F'uck me, now I can't spell know.
Edited, Sep 30th 2011 11:01am by MoebiusLord
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