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While I can't speak for Ugly, I think the point here is that so many people who think it's wrong to kill someone via legal process involving conviction of a heinous crime by a jury of their peers, under strict legal requirements and scrutiny, followed by years (sometimes decades) of appeals process, followed by possibility of executive pardon, would justify killing someone because his method of expressing his freedom of speech annoys them (or they just want a bunch of money). I agree that the two conditions are not directly equivalent, but I'd think that the former should be much more ethically acceptable than the later.


I guess I have a hard time wrapping my brain around the idea that someone would oppose capital punishment because the process we use can't absolutely guarantee that we aren't killing an innocent man, but would be fully willing to act as judge, jury, and executioner for someone they personally dislike. It does seem a whole hell of a lot like a double standard. Jury of peers and due process isn't good enough, but if I decide someone deserves to die, then that's good enough!

Defend his right to live, I mean. Duh.

So, what you're saying is that so long as I were 100% certain that Fred Phelps deserved to die, it would be fine? Cool, then it's fine.

I can't speak for him, but I don't support juries being able to effectively kill someone.

State sanctioned is barbaric but Nilati sanctioned is A-ok!

While I can't speak for Ugly, I think the point here is that so many people who think it's wrong to kill someone via legal process involving conviction of a heinous crime by a jury of their peers, under strict legal requirements and scrutiny, followed by years (sometimes decades) of appeals process, followed by possibility of executive pardon, would justify killing someone because his method of expressing his freedom of speech annoys them (or they just want a bunch of money). I agree that the two conditions are not directly equivalent, but I'd think that the former should be much more ethically acceptable than the later.

[quote=Nilatai]Oh fuck off. It's supporters of the death penalty who are being hypocritical. It's not okay for one person to decide another should die, but it's fine if it's a committee? What a load of *****************

You realize you've just refuted what is more or less the founding principle of Democracy, right?

This exactly. Someone gets it at least.