Don't ask, don't tell, don't persueFollow

The justification you provided there was extremely weak though. I suppose you thought "showers!" and "they could live together!" was good enough reason to deny someone their basic freedoms but I disagree and, more importantly, so did a majority of America and Congress.

You mean the people who own the military by virtue of being citizens of the United States and thought your justifications were poor ones.

Assuming this is true, we're either being asked to believe that these "peepers" signed up for the military and were shipped to Iraq within two week's time, that they've always been there but only started "peeping" within the last two weeks or that this anecdote is irrelevant to the larger debate.

I'll take Door #3, Bob.

I'm also skeptical that you're allowed to "touch" one another's "junk" in the shower without reprisal but maybe you guys were already friskier with one another than I suspected and this whole "Boo DADT repeal!" thing is a bit of a show for your parents.

So... Alma is hoping that some poor guy gets acosted in the shower so DADT can be reinstated?

More and more I honestly wonder if Alma is truly enlisted...

None of that makes sense. How does option 1 even come about? Number two is just a stupid assumption. We just had training on it today, didn't mean it just happened. According to one of my friends, he claimed that he told me a long time ago. I don't ever recall him saying that.

I never said there wasn't any reprisal..



What about option #3, the EO rep put out wrong information. I wasn't there and didn't accept it, so I asked him one on one. That is exactly what he said. I don't like EO or New Horizons because I disagree with about 95% of the "EO" crap that's put out.

Only in the Army can there exist a "double rape". That is completely stupid.



Is that how you view the backbone of the Army?

WOOOOOOOOSSSHH!!!!!

Are you saying you're the backbone of the army? If so, we're in more trouble than I thought.


Edited, Oct 11th 2011 4:21pm by Belkira

Wrong. The protection against unwanted sexual activity is covered under Sexual Assault and Harassment laws.

Ya **** the gays, no one ever got sexually ASSaulted in the histroy of the military ever, if it happens now it is totally because the gays can say they are gay. Not like they haven't been peeping for centuries. Just now in 2011, since they can say they love man junk in their trunk.

Alma you *****, its ok to come out, stop the fake hate.

Hence the rest of my statement? You are implying that it must makes sense because it was supported? Under that notion, then DADT must make sense also because it was accepted back in the Clinton era. Just because it was voted on and accepted by the people doesn't mean it makes any sense at all, especially when people say stuff like "A homosexual can shoot a weapon just like a heterosexual can". Uh, yea, so can a convicted sex offender, what's your point?



No, what we need are presidents who hold the highest ranking military position to actually have served in the military for x amount of years as a prerequisite.



Uh, no, under DADT, no matter how "gay" Timmy appears, he's straight unless proven other wise. Any action listed under the policy that Timmy may do that "proves" his homosexuality, then he's out. Just because Timmy wears skinny jeans, tight fish net shirts, talk with a lisp, swings his hips and talks about hair, don't make him gay. Is Timmy gay? More than likely, but none of those actions are defined as "homosexual", because those actions are merely stereotypes of a gay man, they don't define homosexuality.

Oh, with the living conditions, the generals that I sourced in the previous thread beg to differ with your opinion

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Read above.



Did you overlook the portion of me saying that I disagree with 95% of the stuff that's put out. Maybe in your career, the stuff said has made sense, but I have only experienced nothing but ignorant propaganda.

Here's just a small list of things that I've heard.

There can be a double rape case... How can two people rape each other at the same time?

Having sex with a drunk girl is rape because she "can't give consent" even if she came unto you.

Glancing at a woman as she walks down the grocery aisle is "sexual harassment" even though she didn't feel harassed or was effected one way or the other by it, because she didn't know it happened.

Talking with women with short skirts is like having sex with them, therefore it's prostitution (BDE CSM)

Buying J-girls drinks in Korea is prostitution and human trafficking, although we completely allow it to happen and support it. Each drink can be up to 1? year in jail.

"Women can say no at any time" as opposed to "don't put yourself in a position where you might feel the need to say no"

I mean the list just goes on. If every person who misrepresented information or said something illogical went to jail, I assure you the EO reps would be harder and harder to find... well, actually easier to find, because they'll all be behind bars.




Uh no. NCO's are the backbone of the Army. They correct officers and assist in planning and then turn around and ensure that the Soldiers are executing the plan that the officers came up with. They are the connection between the Good Idea Fairy and Joe actually executing a mission.

Your statement was implying that the more and more I talk, the dumber and dumber I sound, so therefore I should be enlisted. That means you think very poorly of the enlisted, when in fact they are the executors that actually make things happen. Shame on you... Make fun of warrants, they're anti-social and never follow any rules

So you only thought that number mattered when it helped your argument?

Thanks for being consistent at least.

Bolding yours.

Funny how the DVA numbers "are pretty significant" when you thought they helped and suddenly stopped mattering when they don't help you quite so much.


Playing fast and loose with the word "fact", are we? The portion quoted by you above was supposed to support this "fact", remember?

The first problem with this is that it assumes each person will only be assaulted/report an assault once rather than singular people making repeated reports (with frustrating response).

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 6:53pm by Jophiel