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#777 Oct 20 2011 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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nah, I think everyone has just gotten tired of trying to explain stuff to you. /shrug.

At some point in any given thread it stops being worth it.

Edited, Oct 20th 2011 2:31pm by Xsarus
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#778 Oct 20 2011 at 1:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well does that mean you have a hard time understanding my statement regardless of who's fault? No need to restate it, if you already understand it.

Instead of prattling on, you could have just restated it with this post if you had actually intended to.
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#779 Oct 20 2011 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
nah, I think everyone has just gotten tired of trying to explain stuff to you. /shrug.

At some point in any given thread it stops being worth it.

Edited, Oct 20th 2011 2:31pm by Xsarus
That point is typically before the ******* thread is even created.
#780Almalieque, Posted: Oct 20 2011 at 1:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So, are you going to answer the question or do I have to restate the question of me restating the other question?
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#782 Oct 20 2011 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
Up to you, sparkles.


Wait, which one?
#783 Oct 20 2011 at 1:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
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Up to you, sparkles.


Wait, which one?


What a nice, compact example of poor reading comprehension.
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Up to you, sparkles.
Wait, which one?

Up to you, sparkles.
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#785Almalieque, Posted: Oct 20 2011 at 2:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) As suspected... so I choose the other one.
#786 Oct 20 2011 at 3:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
nah, I think everyone has just gotten tired of trying to explain stuff to you. /shrug.

At some point in any given thread it stops being worth it.


There was no need for any post beyond post 206. That isn't my fault. At this point, it's all about 1000 posts.
I've responded to that post a few times, all of which were ignored so whatever. Others have too. I've never gotten a satisfactory response.

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#787Almalieque, Posted: Oct 20 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You must be referring to the posts where you're just saying the same thing that has already been refuted. Even if I did magically ignore your posts, you have not added anything to this conversation. Everything you have said has already been said by someone else.
#788 Oct 20 2011 at 3:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sure thing twinkly

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#789 Oct 20 2011 at 4:07 PM Rating: Default
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Sure thing twinkly

Edited, Oct 20th 2011 4:57pm by Xsarus


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#791 Oct 21 2011 at 1:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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The justifications are not similar either. What you're doing is taking the lowest form of an "argument", hatred and bigotry, and claiming that since there are people who argue with hatred and bigotry against homosexuality, the justifications are similar.


Those justifications are similar. "Comfort" was another justification that was also similarly applied to both racial & sexual orientation discrimination.

Alma wrote:
Well, the legitimate justifications against homosexuality within the military has nothing to do with hatred and bigotry.


What legitimate justifications? Name ONE. Brownie points if it couldn't also be applied to racial discrimination.

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So, as I said above, if you want to sit there with your fingers in your ears screaming that there isn't any justification when it was presented before DADT, during DADT and even in the repeal of DADT, then that's a personal problem.


Perhaps it's just semantics, but I've been waiting for one logical justification to discriminate by sexual orientation from you for awhile now. "Post 206" does not answer that. A complete sentence, or one filled out madlib, would.

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What? No.. You claimed that there weren't any other forms of discrimination.


I did? The CLOSEST thing I've posted in this thread that could POSSIBLY be misconstrued by a moron into thinking I claimed that was when I asked you the following question:

"Besides a woman's role in combat & the physical requirement needed to join the armed forces (neither of which are the equivalent of discrimination solely based upon ones sexual orientation), how does the military blatantly & openly discriminate? Be specific. "

This question was asked so you would answer &, hopefully, be able to understand the difference between (mostly) logical justifications for discrimination (gender, religion, etc.) & illogical justifications.

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Now you're trying to turn that around and pretend that I was trying to say it was ok because of other forms of discrimination when I explicitly said the contrary numerous of times.


Alma, #647, as his answer to why woman whom meet the physical standard still aren't allowed to do some things wrote:

Because the military discriminates in more ways than just against homosexuals.
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Almalieque wrote:
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ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?


Maybe I missed the point of your statement, please explain.


Gay is not sexuality? Smiley: dubious
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Nilatai wrote:
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ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?


Maybe I missed the point of your statement, please explain.


Gay is not sexuality? Smiley: dubious


No no Sexuality is a physical trait unlike skin color which is not a physical trait.
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Those justifications are similar. "Comfort" was another justification that was also similarly applied to both racial & sexual orientation discrimination.


So we agree. Hatred and bigotry can be used for ANY argument. You can't use those "arguments" for the legitimate justification for the discrimination. My post did not support any bigotry or hatred. Under your logic, all discrimination is the same because we can all reduce it to "hatred" and "bigotry". The actual justification for the discrimination of homosexuality did NOT include either of those, so therefore the two reasons are NOT the same.

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What legitimate justifications? Name ONE. Brownie points if it couldn't also be applied to racial discrimination.


Post 206.

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Perhaps it's just semantics, but I've been waiting for one logical justification to discriminate by sexual orientation from you for awhile now. "Post 206" does not answer that. A complete sentence, or one filled out madlib, would.


Post 206. You're trying to put an entire post into one sentence, it can not happen. You either take the whole post as a whole or stop asking for an explanation, because that's all you will get.

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This question was asked so you would answer &, hopefully, be able to understand the difference between (mostly) logical justifications for discrimination (gender, religion, etc.) & illogical justifications.


And you yet provided any "logical justifications" for gender, religion,etc. You responded with the same responses that you are attacking for homosexuality. For example, you say "traditional gender roles", but "traditional gender roles" do not support homosexuality. So, according to your "logical explanation" for discrimination against sex, it also supports DADT. So, do you or do you not stand by "traditional gender roles"?

You also said for religion to basically suck it up, because you should have known that before joining. I can just as easily use that same thought process against homosexuality.

Unless I overlooked it, I responded to your post refuting all of your claims and you did not reply.

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Now you're trying to turn that around and pretend that I was trying to say it was ok because of other forms of discrimination when I explicitly said the contrary numerous of times.



Almalieque The Most Awesome, #647, as his answer to why woman whom meet the physical standard still aren't allowed to do some things wrote:


Because the military discriminates in more ways than just against homosexuals.

Smiley: dubious


And your point? That isn't a contradiction. You ask why women can't do certain things. I answered because the military discriminates. I was pointing out to you that it discriminates beyond sexuality as what you are implying. I did not say that one lead to the to other, just simply it exists.

Nice try though.
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Almalieque wrote:
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ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?


Maybe I missed the point of your statement, please explain.


Gay is not sexuality? Smiley: dubious



I'm sorry, I was referring to the dictionary. If you have some other credible source that says otherwise, please feel free to share.
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And your point? That isn't a contradiction. You ask why women can't do certain things. I answered because the military discriminates. I was pointing out to you that it discriminates beyond sexuality as what you are implying. I did not say that one lead to the to other, just simply it exists.


One hurdle at a time there champ, the gays got their freedom from discrimination, maybe next it will be chicky-poos on the front line. Rome wasn't built in a day.

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Almalieque wrote:
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ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?


Maybe I missed the point of your statement, please explain.


Gay is not sexuality? Smiley: dubious



I'm sorry, I was referring to the dictionary. If you have some other credible source that says otherwise, please feel free to share.

The thing is, homosexuality is a psychological grey area. There are those who say it is genetic, and others who say it can have environmental triggers.

If you want, you can head to your local public or university library and check out Biological Psychology by James W. Kalat, pages 335-338.

Alternatively you can check out dictionary.com - noun (of a person, esp. a man) Homosexual.

So I ask again, how is being gay not referring to sexuality? If you say "Gay means happy" I will find you and ***** slap you so hard.
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#799 Oct 21 2011 at 5:42 AM Rating: Excellent
ENOUGH ABOUT POST 206

If you truly think we missed some pearl of wisdom in it, just say it again, at least once. Or don't, but please stop dragging this fucking post out.
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Post 206 is Alma's bible. He doesn't have to prove anything, just reference that post. It's up to you to find the answers from there.
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