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#752 Oct 18 2011 at 2:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
I've used this argument before and I'll use it again.
Repeating one plus one is three over and over again won't make it right.
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#753Almalieque, Posted: Oct 18 2011 at 2:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That's correct. Never implied otherwise. Unless you're suggesting that not focusing on the things that make the age 18 special (voting rights, legal age, etc) makes a better argument for moving the drinking age from 21 to 18 as opposed to focusing on the things that make age 18 special, then your analogy fails.
#754 Oct 18 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Excellent
Almalieque wrote:
I find it odd that you think that I took the "easy way out" after I spent forever typing those two posts.


I find it odd that you think typing two long posts is in any way relevant to whether or not your argument is valid or not. Or even really an argument...


Edited, Oct 18th 2011 4:04pm by Belkira
#755 Oct 18 2011 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
catwho wrote:
ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?
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#756 Oct 18 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
catwho wrote:
ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?


It
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#757 Oct 18 2011 at 4:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you're comparing skin color with sexuality, a physical trait with a personality trait and claiming that they are the same thing, then you are beyond confused.


Sexual orientation & race are not the same thing. The justifications used to support discrimination by either are similar though.

Alma wrote:

This entire time, you acted like homosexuality was the only thing being discriminated against.


Not at all, but homosexuality, like race, lacks a logical justification unlike some of the other ways the military discriminates. With DADT repealed does the military still discriminate for other reasons? Yup. Is that a logical reason not to repeal DADT? Nope.

Alma wrote:
You asked me to list these other forms of discrimination. I listed them and your only responses were attempts of justification and "they are not the same" even though my point was just to simply prove to you that the military discriminates in more ways than one.


Cool story. How come because the military still discriminates against other things that makes it ok to discriminate because of sexual orientation? Oh wait, it doesn't.
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Alma wrote:

If you're comparing skin color with sexuality, a physical trait with a personality trait and claiming that they are the same thing, then you are beyond confused.


Sexual orientation & race are not the same thing. The justifications used to support discrimination by either are similar though.


Nuh uh, because liek, pplz dun choose to be black, but dey choose to be gay. See? Smiley: rolleyes
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#759 Oct 18 2011 at 5:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
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Almalieque wrote:
No, that isn't accurate. To clarify, if you want to argue that the military can't discriminate against someone because of sexual orientation (and sexual orientation only), then you have to provide an argument that is unique to the discrimination of sexual orientation that isn't applicable to other accepted forms of discrimination.
Bzzzttt!!

Oh, I'm sorry. You lost the washer/dryer AND the trip to Cancun, but we DO have a nice copy of the home game as a parting gift...
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So, you're arguing that if you want to EXCLUSIVELY argue for a specific group that you can or must include other groups? Do you not know what "exclusive" mean?

Did you huff spray paint before typing this?
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#760 Oct 18 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Probably huffing Dust-Off. A lot of deployed soldiers do it.
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#761 Oct 18 2011 at 9:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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again, the onus is on you to justify the discrimination, not on us to justify the lack.
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#762 Oct 18 2011 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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again, the onus is on you to justify the discrimination, not on us to justify the lack.


But he has justified it. In post 206. Where he said, "Nuh uh, you can't argue to end discrimination on that and not other stuffs."

He's a coward, and he'll never come up with a logical argument.
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Alma needs one of these
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#764 Oct 19 2011 at 4:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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#765 Oct 19 2011 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I love that form.
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#766 Oct 19 2011 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
catwho wrote:
ITT: Gay is a personality trait.


Let's not get caught up in the wrong words. What would you call it? It's not a physical trait like sexuality or skin color.

What?


Obviously

gay != sexuality


It's actually watermelon. Why do you think Alma loves talking about it so much?
#767 Oct 19 2011 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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#769Almalieque, Posted: Oct 20 2011 at 11:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What? No.. You claimed that there weren't any other forms of discrimination. I proved you wrong. Instead of admitting it, now you're trying to turn that around and pretend that I was trying to say it was ok because of other forms of discrimination when I explicitly said the contrary numerous of times
#770Almalieque, Posted: Oct 20 2011 at 11:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Read post 206.
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#772 Oct 20 2011 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just so you know, POST 206 doesn't say what you think it says.
#773 Oct 20 2011 at 11:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nothing he says says what he think he says.
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#774 Oct 20 2011 at 12:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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No, so answer the question or do you need me to restate it in another way?

Up to you, sparkles.
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#775 Oct 20 2011 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you can think of a similar "DADT" ruling where people can "hide" their skin color to serve, then we can start making similarities in the exclusion.


So being gay depends on the color of your skin? I was not aware of that. I feel enlightened to know that Homosexuality depends on Race. Fantastic.
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#776Almalieque, Posted: Oct 20 2011 at 1:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well does that mean you have a hard time understanding my statement regardless of who's fault? No need to restate it, if you already understand it.
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