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#1 Sep 08 2011 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, so drive 200km an hour (admit to doing it) but your fine is $200 and despite driving cars that probably otherwise don't exist in Surrey (in a flock no less) - get seen going 200+ an hour etc. there is "not enough evidence to lay charges" - this is just ridiculous. How much evidence do they need?

FYI heard on the TV that at least one participant admitted what they did to the media, that part isn't in this print story, but that just adds to the WTF. So if admitting to doing a crime isn't enough evidence anymore, what is?

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VANCOUVER — A group of young drivers who had their high-end vehicles seized after hitting speeds up to 200 kilometres on a Vancouver-area highway may lose their cars.

The 13 cars were supposed to be released Thursday after being in an impound lot for seven days. Instead the case has been referred to the B.C. Civil Forfeiture Office after the RCMP's Lower Mainland District Traffic Services provided information to the Federal Integrated Proceeds of Crime Section, which evaluated the Sept. 1 incident.

Supt. Norm Gaumont, head of traffic services for the RCMP in the Lower Mainland, said in a release there was not enough evidence against the drivers to proceed with criminal charges.

"With the criminal avenue closed to us, we decided to see if there was enough evidence to proceed civilly," said Gaumont.

The Proceeds of Crime unit recommended the Forfeiture Office assess the case for four reasons: the vehicles were by definition "street racing," speeds were estimated as high as 200 km/h on roads designed and signposted for 90 km/h, there was disregard by all the involved drivers for the motoring public and there was the potential for catastrophic injury or death.

The vehicles, which included a Lamborghini, a Maserati, a Ferrari and an Aston Martin, are estimated to be worth as much as $2 million in total.

Witnesses reported the cars were working together — two vehicles would drive side-by-side to slow down traffic so the other cars could race ahead at speeds estimated to be as high as 200 km/h.

Surrey RCMP stopped six of the cars when they left the freeway while the other seven were stopped shortly afterward by White Rock RCMP.

The 12 young men and one woman were all under 21 years of age and two were under 18. Six had full licences but six were new drivers and one was without a valid Canadian driver's licence.

They were all given $196 tickets for driving without reasonable considerations, and were to lose six points on their licences.

They all lost access to their vehicles for a week but now may lose much more.

Only one of the drivers was the registered owner of their vehicle.

Media reports have indicated some of the drivers were from St. George's School, a prestigious private school which has cited privacy concerns in refusing to confirm or deny its students were involved.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/cars/seize+million+convoy+luxury+cars+used+street+racing/5373198/story.html#ixzz1XPyHhedx


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#2 Sep 08 2011 at 9:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hope they lose their vehicles. Street racers can DIAFieryCrash as far as I'm concerned.
#3 Sep 09 2011 at 1:38 AM Rating: Good
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Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari, Aston Martin... At 18-21? Seriously?
I'm kinda jealous.
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#4 Sep 09 2011 at 1:55 AM Rating: Good
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Losing the cars permanently is going to BURN as badly as jail, ESPECIALLY if they are their parent's cars. OMG they are going to be in a world of trouble. Paying their parents back for the cars is REALLY going to hurt. Which if their parents have a lick of sense, they are going to make them do, no matter how much cash the parents have in the trust fund.
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#5 Sep 09 2011 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Losing the cars permanently is going to BURN as badly as jail, ESPECIALLY if they are their parent's cars. OMG they are going to be in a world of trouble. Paying their parents back for the cars is REALLY going to hurt. Which if their parents have a lick of sense, they are going to make them do, no matter how much cash the parents have in the trust fund.
If the parents had a lick of sense, their 18-21 yr old kids wouldn't be driving their Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari, or Aston Martin.
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#6 Sep 09 2011 at 6:37 AM Rating: Good
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I doubt they knew they were driving their lamborghinis, Maseratis, Ferraris etc.
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#7 Sep 09 2011 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Aripyanfar wrote:
Losing the cars permanently is going to BURN as badly as jail, ESPECIALLY if they are their parent's cars. OMG they are going to be in a world of trouble. Paying their parents back for the cars is REALLY going to hurt. Which if their parents have a lick of sense, they are going to make them do, no matter how much cash the parents have in the trust fund.
If the parents had a lick of sense, their 18-21 yr old kids wouldn't be driving their Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari, or Aston Martin.

I bet it doesn't hurt very bad at all.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
I doubt they knew they were driving their lamborghinis, Maseratis, Ferraris etc.
I don't know if I should consider you an optimist for thinking people would never be so stupid to give kids cars like this or a pessimist for thinking this many parents are blind to their kids and this many kids would steal their parents' cars, all at the same time.
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#9 Sep 09 2011 at 6:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sheer criminality, if you ask me. Give 'em ten years without the option.
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:

Aripyanfar wrote:
I doubt they knew they were driving their lamborghinis, Maseratis, Ferraris etc.
I don't know if I should consider you an optimist for thinking people would never be so stupid to give kids cars like this or a pessimist for thinking this many parents are blind to their kids and this many kids would steal their parents' cars, all at the same time.

I stole my dad's drag racing car once, drove it over to the next town and back. I got caught, but I still did it.
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Sheer criminality, if you ask me. Give 'em ten years without the option.
Inorite. Exceeding the speed limit is serious bizness.

I see the officials going hard on these youngsters simply because of the value of their vehicles and the status of their families.

Really, the charges are speeding, perhaps driving to endanger. Nothing very felonious (nothing i didn't do as a kid, although my tempest only hit 120mph).
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Elinda wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Sheer criminality, if you ask me. Give 'em ten years without the option.
Inorite. Exceeding the speed limit is serious bizness.

I see the officials going hard on these youngsters simply because of the value of their vehicles and the status of their families.

Really, the charges are speeding, perhaps driving to endanger. Nothing very felonious (nothing i didn't do as a kid, although my tempest only hit 120mph).


This isn't something that can just be given a hand-wave and a "kids will be kids" either. They were putting many lives at serious risk.

As far as I'm concerned they should lose their licenses for 4-6 years. They're clearly nowhere near ready for the responsibility.
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Elinda wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Sheer criminality, if you ask me. Give 'em ten years without the option.
Inorite. Exceeding the speed limit is serious bizness.

I see the officials going hard on these youngsters simply because of the value of their vehicles and the status of their families.

Really, the charges are speeding, perhaps driving to endanger. Nothing very felonious (nothing i didn't do as a kid, although my tempest only hit 120mph).


OK, see, you got exactly the wrong impression from my post. I was comparing the slap on the wrist these guys are getting, almost certainly because they are rich, for what is very reckless behaviour with the harsh sentencing seen in the aftermath of the london riots, often for very minor offences.
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:

Aripyanfar wrote:
I doubt they knew they were driving their lamborghinis, Maseratis, Ferraris etc.
I don't know if I should consider you an optimist for thinking people would never be so stupid to give kids cars like this or a pessimist for thinking this many parents are blind to their kids and this many kids would steal their parents' cars, all at the same time.

I stole my dad's drag racing car once, drove it over to the next town and back. I got caught, but I still did it.
Did you talk 5-6 friends into stealing their Dad's drag cars as well?
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#15 Sep 09 2011 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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As far as I'm concerned they should lose their licenses for 4-6 years. They're clearly nowhere near ready for the responsibility.
That could be said of about about 90% of the 16-18 year olds that are handed car keys.

They should be treated no differently than any other kid caught excessively speeding.
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Elinda wrote:
They should be treated no differently than any other kid caught excessively speeding.
So they should have their license revoked for 6 months to a year. Agreed.
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#17 Sep 09 2011 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Sheer criminality, if you ask me. Give 'em ten years without the option.
Inorite. Exceeding the speed limit is serious bizness.

I see the officials going hard on these youngsters simply because of the value of their vehicles and the status of their families.

Really, the charges are speeding, perhaps driving to endanger. Nothing very felonious (nothing i didn't do as a kid, although my tempest only hit 120mph).


OK, see, you got exactly the wrong impression from my post. I was comparing the slap on the wrist these guys are getting, almost certainly because they are rich, for what is very reckless behaviour with the harsh sentencing seen in the aftermath of the london riots, often for very minor offences.

Differently scaled sentences for very different offences in countries on opposite sides of the ocean. How could I miss that?
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Elinda wrote:
They should be treated no differently than any other kid caught excessively speeding.
So they should have their license revoked for 6 months to a year. Agreed.
Yeah. If they're under 18, at least in the states, they'd lose their provisional license privileges, and not be eligible to get a license again until they're 18. There'd also be a hefty fine (in many states the fine increases with the speed).
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Elinda wrote:
They should be treated no differently than any other kid caught excessively speeding.
They should. Too bad they got slaps on the wrists instead.
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Elinda wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:

As far as I'm concerned they should lose their licenses for 4-6 years. They're clearly nowhere near ready for the responsibility.
That could be said of about about 90% of the 16-18 year olds that are handed car keys.

They should be treated no differently than any other kid caught excessively speeding.


I'm just posing the penalty that I think should apply for driving those speeds. Somehow, I managed to resist the urge to try to hit triple digits in my Lumina back then. I'd expect the same of any other kid.

If 90% of 16-18 year olds were doing that (which I don't think they are) then we'd clearly need to up the severity of the punishment, because its not acting as a deterrent.

A 4-6 year license suspension sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Enough to be a real deterrent, and gives a good amount of time to mature up if convicted. Let 'em do some relevant community service work to lower the penalty time. Maybe see some mutilated bodies of kids who crashed racing, or the people they hit doing so. Something to teach them some appreciation for the people they're putting at risk.

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If I had a car that could hit 200km/hr when I was 18, I know I would've done it from time to time. Mine would top out at 160 on speedometer. It was pretty dumb of me and while my behaviour wasn't the norm, it wasn't rare.
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#22 Sep 09 2011 at 7:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, this forum isn't indicative of the norm. Everyone here is so cool and edgy. Just a collection of Vin Diesels and Paul Walkers, posting about minecraft.
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So we're all *** or look ***?
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Vin Diesel is all about minecraft.
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#25 Sep 09 2011 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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Well, yeah.
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A friend of mine was really into street racing for a while. He destroyed one car, lost his license for six months after he got yet another speeding ticket, and had to rely on his brother driving him to work. He calmed down after that and has managed to not wreck his current vehicle, but I still refuse to ride in the same car as him.
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