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#102 Sep 07 2011 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
And how often is that?

How often can I go to the doctor and pay in cash? Well, those clinics have been expanding (originally just in a few drugstore chains, now in Walmarts and Targets among other places) so I guess... pretty often? As in people are doing it so often, it's worth expanding the operation despite it costing just as much as a standard doctor's visit and not even with a bona fide doctor?

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Removing strict controls and regulations really.

Nope. The insurance companies have zero reason to change the status quo. Amusingly, you've even admitted to this before but I guess that gets pushed aside when you can cry about "the Left!" Smiley: laugh
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#103 Sep 07 2011 at 8:19 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
And how often is that?

How often can I go to the doctor and pay in cash? Well, those clinics have been expanding (originally just in a few drugstore chains, now in Walmarts and Targets among other places) so I guess... pretty often? As in people are doing it so often, it's worth expanding the operation despite it costing just as much as a standard doctor's visit and not even with a bona fide doctor?


Was that supposed to be an answer? So you agree that most of the time the things you visit a doctor for are not so expensive that you need insurance to pay for them? That's all I was asking.

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Removing strict controls and regulations really.

Nope. The insurance companies have zero reason to change the status quo. Amusingly, you've even admitted to this before but I guess that gets pushed aside when you can cry about "the Left!" Smiley: laugh


Huh? Of course the insurance companies don't have a reason to change the status quo. Why would they? That's like arguing that a grocery store doesn't have a reason to fight to eliminate food stamps. Um... Duh!

It's the government which creates those strict controls and regulations. It's the government which creates insurance requirements which artificially increase demand for health insurance. It's the government which creates coverage requirements so that insurance companies "have no choice" but to provide you with coverage for more than you probably want or need. It's not their fault, of course, but they'll have to charge you for the increased coverage!


You're not this stupid, so stop pretending that you don't understand what I'm talking about.
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#104 Sep 07 2011 at 8:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Was that supposed to be an answer?

Was that?

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So you agree that most of the time the things you visit a doctor for are not so expensive that you need insurance to pay for them?

No. Try and keep up, okay? Just.... try? Most people I know who've used them actually had insurance, they just wanted the quick service versus scheduling an appointment. This is different from someone who can't afford insurance who, really, would be just as easily served by a "real" doctor since the cost would be the same. More realistically, they don't have the hundred bucks for either option. The clinics serve primarily as a convenience, not a cost-saving measure as you so ignorantly said would be the case if only we could find some way of paying cash directly for our medical services.

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You're not this stupid

Wish I could say the same. You seem exceptionally confused and pollyanna about your little insurance dream.

Edited, Sep 7th 2011 9:25pm by Jophiel
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#105 Sep 08 2011 at 1:04 AM Rating: Good
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What many don't understand is its the people that make over 35k(this puts you above most states medicaid programs) that drive up health care cost. Even those with insurance are more responsible then poor. When it comes to keeping your car, food or a roof over your head you don't pay medical bills. If you have insurance you get treated get the 20% bill and since as long as your paying they can't report on you. So sending $20 is enough to prevent that no matter the expense.

If you know people might not pay the 20% or a ER bill you have to make the cost up some where IE charging more or services so you get more out of the 80% you will get paid and get it faster. Hospitals love the poor they know they will get paid most of the time in full or share of cost which is around $800 in the high range(example 15 years ago when I broke my leg it was 10k to set it with pins so whats $800). The first thing they do is send in a social worker to get you on medicaid if you are below the income level.

Heart meds are crazy expensive though. One of mine before my transplant ran around $500 for generic
After it even worse for my anit-rejection meds runs around 1800 for 2 a mouth again this is for generics and not all of the meds I have to take.
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#106 Sep 08 2011 at 9:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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