Most date rape scenarios follow a pattern where the woman says "yes" about a half dozen times to different things before she ends out alone in a bedroom half undressed with the guy she then says "no" to.
So if the woman says yes to dinner, yes to a movie, yes to splitting the popcorn, yes to drinks afterward, the guy is going to be confused when she says no to sex? I knew men could be simple, but this is just ridiculous.
So, your original statement of:
In the overwhelming majority of date rape cases, the woman involved said "yes" many times before saying "no". Perhaps instead of just teaching people that "no means no", we should teach people when they should be saying no?
is very non specific in what the woman is saying "yes" to. You poorly worded it, leading people to misunderstand you. Your inability to admit you were wrong in anything whatsoever, is not a strength.
Nad's figured it out right off the bat. I thought in context that what I was saying was pretty clear.
But for those who thought otherwise: I was talking about all the choices leading up to ending out alone, perhaps drunk, perhaps semi-nude, perhaps already making out with a guy, and then saying "no" to actual intercourse. I was talking about saying "yes" to going to dinner, "yes" to going dancing, "yes" to having drinks, "yes" to making out with the guy, "yes" to going back to his place, and "yes" to making out on his bed. In a typical date rate scenario, the woman has said "yes" to numerous choices along the way. That's not to say she was wrong, or to blame for those choices, just that at any point she could have chosen to end the evening, but didn't.
I'm saying that teaching women to say "no" before they end out half naked in some guys bedroom, and out of public view will minimize their odds of being date raped. I don't think it's a bad idea to teach young women that the best time to end the evening with someone you don't trust 100% is before you are alone with them in an intimate setting. Again, this is not about blame
. It's about educating women about precautions they can take while dating. As I've said repeatedly, this is no different than locking your doors, or hiding your valuables. In a perfect world, none of us would have to do those things.
But we don't live in a perfect world.