From my understanding, the PP lost funding basically because the GOP didn't want abortion involved in any way shape or form, even though it was done legally within the stated rules and regulations. While I don't disagree with the complaints of douchebaggery, to allow PP to lose all funding over a service that only makes up 3% of your total services is pretty stupid. Just drop the service to keep the funding and continue to fight for the service in order to bring it back. If everything is legitimate as you state it is, then you shouldn't have any problem winning that fight.
To come off as an organization to help all women and succumb to pride because you are making a pseudo symbolic argument of your own personal beliefs of abortion is not only selfish, stupid and ignorant, it shows what your true colors are.
I don't see it as "pride" so much as providing a service that is much needed, and refusing to be strong-armed by as
sholes with a religious bug up their collective asses. Again, it stuns me that you, or anyone, would see PP as being the stubborn, prideful, selfish, stupid, and ignorant. Abortion is a procedure included in women's health.
It really seems to me that, once again, you're letting your personal opinions on abortion get the better of you.
And before you accuse me of doing the same, I would also contend that a KKK organization shouldn't be arbitrarily punished by the government simply because they are the KKK, and that they would not have to prove to the government that they aren't burning crosses or hanging people. Once again, you're advocating punishment to Planned Parenthood when they've done nothing wrong simply because you don't like abortion.
You sweep the "douchebaggery" of the GOP aside with a blanket statement of how they're forcing the de-funding of the organization because of a procedure that only encompasses 3% of their operations, yet you're deriding and demonizing the group performing to the letter of the law as selfish?? Edited, May 15th 2011 6:20pm by Belkira
What I'm trying to point out to everyone is that "you all" are not acting any better than the opponents of PP. The opponents only care about abortion, but are using legitimate arguments against PP. Proponents only care about abortion, using legitimate practices under "women's health".
The reason why I call PP selfish is because from what I've gathered from you all is that this program is supposed to be about overall women's health. Yet, just like those people with "religious" bugs up their behinds, you are behaving in the same way by forfeiting 97% of your services to fight and protect abortion. Also, for the love of God, will you quit blaming religion on these things? People believe what they believe because that's what they believe in, not because of religion.
Yes, abortion is part of a woman's health and so are breast implants, liposuction and botax. Once again, people are just making this into a pseudo symbolic argument of pride. People see losing/winning this debate will have some weight in the legality of abortion.
It is definitely pride because no matter how silly it is for the GOP to question the PP's usage of money, they have the right and the legal grounds to do so. Just like PP isn't doing anything illegal nor are the opponents. All proponents have done is talked about being "strong-armed", which displays concern of being "bullied" to do something. If your concern is with the health of the people that are being treating, then being "strong-armed" in such a controversial topic shouldn't be an issue.
So, "you all" can play the "victim" role, but I'm not sure what society you're referencing where abortion wasn't either illegal or controversial. If I were in that same exact scenario, I would give up whatever is preventing me the funding while fighting to get back what I gave up. As a result, I have absolutely no sympathy for PP. If that particular service was more than 3% of the overall services used, then I could see your point, but it isn't. So, you're basically arguing on concept, which isn't wrong, but at the expense of others, which makes you selfish.