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#102 Apr 28 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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What happens if Obama's BC had been a fake? Biden becomes President?
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#103varusword75, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 3:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ugly,
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That wasn't my point. You think with him being one step away from being the most powerful and influential person in the world and Biden hasn't dug into the legitimacy of Obama's qualifications?

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 6:08pm by Uglysasquatch
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#105 Apr 28 2011 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can't get any worse than Obama.
Palin, Trump, Clinton, another Bush.

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 5:11pm by lolgaxe
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
What happens if Obama's BC had been a fake? Biden becomes President?


I would assume so. The election was won for the Dem ticket, not just Obama. That's actually one of the reasons we use the electoral college system. If someone were to die at any point between election day and the inauguration, the party can theoretically select a replacement for either, or even both slots. This would theoretically apply in the case of disqualification as well.

Since Obama's already been inaugurated, then it's even less complicated (although there are other issues). Presumably, he'd either step down, or be impeached, and Biden would become president. If for some reason he didn't step down, and wasn't impeached, we'd have a constitutional crisis (because those are the only means for removing a president). Theoretically, the Supreme Court would get involved, but I'm not aware that they have any power to remove him. They could rule that anything he does is in violation of the constitution I suppose, but that starts to get really messy to even contemplate.
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Can't get any worse than Obama.
Palin, Trump, Clinton, another Bush.

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 5:11pm by lolgaxe


Basically any tea partier.
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#109 Apr 28 2011 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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That news story doesn't say what you think it says. Did you just post the wrong link, or have you been digging through the comments and just pulled out a completely unchecked quote from a random conspiracy theorist?

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Seems I read somewhere that BOTH your parents had to be american citizens for you to qualify to be president. Is that not true?
No, that is not true.

PS: Way to not capitalize 'American', you nazi. Where's your patriotism?




Edited, Apr 28th 2011 5:02pm by bsphil
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#110 Apr 28 2011 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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That news story doesn't say what you think it says. Did you just post the wrong link, or have you been digging through the comments and just pulled out a completely unchecked quote from a random conspiracy theorist?


He's quoting one of the comments on that page. Yeah. Silly.

Both points are pretty fabricated (semi-true, but not in the way presented). Yes. The hospital listed did change it's name to the one on the birth certificate in 1978. But that's because said hospital merged with another existing one which already had that name since 1931. So while that fact is true, the claim that the hospital named on the certificate didn't exist is false.

Similarly, while the official name for Kenya may not have been simply "Kenya", it was a common name for the country at the time. Also recall that said data is provided by the parents in attendance. It's not like there's someone at the hospital checking for official names. They ask each parent was born. If they're a US citizen, this means the state. If they're not, this means the country. If the answer was "Kenya", the person writes "Kenya" on the form.

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I'm certanly no Obama supporter, and the guy is a jerk for killing the space program, but the birth certificate certanly isn't a fake just because it lists kenya as a birthplace. The british named the area after a large mountian in the area, not after john Kenyetta. it's been called Kenya since at least the early 1900's.
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Until we got it fixed, the birth certificate for Jophiel v3.0 had his mother's birthplace listed as "Peru, USA".

Obviously, he's now ineligible to run for president because a nurse wrote something other than the geopolitically accurate country name.
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Seems I read somewhere that BOTH your parents had to be american citizens for you to qualify to be president. Is that not true?


No. Woodrow Wilson's mother was born in the U.K.

Kenya was calling itself Kenya even prior to independence, by the way.

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Whether he's a citizen or not is irrelevant, because he doesn't wear a flag pin.

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Seems I read somewhere that BOTH your parents had to be american citizens for you to qualify to be president. Is that not true?
No. Woodrow Wilson's mother was born in the U.K.

Kenya was calling itself Kenya even prior to independence, by the way.

Be nice. He probably did read it somewhere. Like on the Freeper boards or World News Daily or Drudge Report or Breitbart or Glenn Beck or one of the other places these folk get their "information".
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Seems I read somewhere that BOTH your parents had to be american citizens for you to qualify to be president. Is that not true?
No. Woodrow Wilson's mother was born in the U.K.

Kenya was calling itself Kenya even prior to independence, by the way.

Be nice. He probably did read it somewhere. Like on the Freeper boards or World News Daily or Drudge Report or Breitbart or Glenn Beck or one of the other places these folk get their "information".


Probably from Orly.
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Seems I read somewhere that BOTH your parents had to be american citizens for you to qualify to be president. Is that not true?
No. Woodrow Wilson's mother was born in the U.K.

Kenya was calling itself Kenya even prior to independence, by the way.
Be nice. He probably did read it somewhere. Like on the Freeper boards or World News Daily or Drudge Report or Breitbart or Glenn Beck or one of the other places these folk get their "information".
Probably from Orly.
Probably /adv/.
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#119 Apr 29 2011 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
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It was stated a few times in the comments from the Freeper link Joph showed us. And we know that's all Varus needs as proof of its legitimacy.
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#120 Apr 29 2011 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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It was stated a few times in the comments from the Freeper link Joph showed us. And we know that's all Varus needs as proof of its legitimacy.


You know what they say, if it is on the internet, and not liberal, it must be true.
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#121 Apr 29 2011 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
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bsphil,

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or have you been digging through the comments and just pulled out a completely unchecked quote from a random conspiracy theorist?


Probably this one but who the h*ll knows. It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.

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Okay, who stole his password?
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or have you been digging through the comments and just pulled out a completely unchecked quote from a random conspiracy theorist?


Probably this one but who the h*ll knows. It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.



Honest varus is honest. Whoa.
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#124varusword75, Posted: Apr 29 2011 at 7:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm always honest. Granted most of you don't want to hear the truth but that matters little.
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I'm always honest. Granted most of you don't want to hear the truth but that matters little.



....aaaaaannnnd, we're back.
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It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.

Varus doesn't get his news from anywhere, Joph.
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#127 Apr 29 2011 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
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#128 Apr 29 2011 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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bsphil,

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or have you been digging through the comments and just pulled out a completely unchecked quote from a random conspiracy theorist?


Probably this one but who the h*ll knows. It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.


Rated up, grats.
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#129 Apr 29 2011 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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I keep telling you guys he's just a deep-cover liberal trying to discredit the conservative movement from within through hyperbole of traditional conservative talking points.
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But in a circular fashion, any real liberal would be smart enough to dial it back a little and appear slightly more credible. He's so idiotic, he can only be a conservative!
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#131 Apr 29 2011 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still saying he's a Squidbilly.
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But in a circular fashion, any real liberal would be smart enough to dial it back a little and appear slightly more credible. He's so idiotic, he can only be a conservative!
Argh, the circle keeps on spinning!
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#133 Apr 29 2011 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I feel like Poe's Paradox just barely fails to apply to Varus. No one could be accepted by him unless they spout off his fringe insanity - but if it was anyone else, such insanity would instantly peg the poster a sock puppet or a troll. Somehow most of us think he's legitimate.
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when gas is avging 6$ a gallon


This going to be one of your famous predictions, like 15% unemployment?
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I guess we can add research to his list of things he doesn't do.
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Legitimate? Not sure what that means. Is the sky rocketing cost of gas and steady rise on the costs of goods and services a legitimate concern? Aren't the democrats the ones who've been in charge the last two years? All you people have left is your ability to marginalize your opposition. Can't blame it on W or a GOP congress anymore. You're certainly not going to blame it on the people living off the social programs that comprise a huge voting block for the Dems. Probably not going to blame it on Obama, being the first black president and all you wouldn't want to appear racist. So who's left? Blame it on the tax payers. Blame it on joe the plumber. Tell the people they're not giving enough and they need to sacrifice more.

So continue to marginalize me and i'll continue pointing out what a bad job old barrys doing and when gas is avging 6$ a gallon maybe then enough "independents" will decide they've had enough and we'll elect another conservative member of the gop (not a rino/mcain) and he'll fix the economy so the Dems can regain power to f*ck it up again.


Gas is still less that its peak under Bush. You consevatives seem to forget that. Don't get me wrong, it is on track to go higher than that, but not there yet.

Give me a good republican candidate and I might consider them, not Palin, trump, or huckabee please
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/28/us-usa-economy-gallup-idUSTRE73R3WW20110428?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

Like i've said the economy will determine whether or not Obama is re-elected and no matter how much money he spends towards his re-election or how much of the taxpayers money he gives away by means of social programs to bribe the masses it's not going to be enough.

Fortunately for the US most of our citizens do still work; and not for the govn.


If it is the economy that determines his reelection, you must be worried. Predictions are slow growth for the rest of this year and strong growth next year...election year.
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or have you been digging through the comments and just pulled out a completely unchecked quote from a random conspiracy theorist?


Probably this one but who the h*ll knows. It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.



Honest varus is honest. Whoa.

He's admitted to not reading anything before. Remember, he doesn't even believe most of the sh*t he posts. He's a troll.

Alma on the other hand...
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Fortunately for the US most of our citizens do still work; and not for the govn.



I thought most of the US was taking handouts?
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#144varusword75, Posted: Apr 29 2011 at 9:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nads,
#145varusword75, Posted: Apr 29 2011 at 9:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nads,
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Do you have any actual cites that validate this

Does it matter? You and Gbaji have already established that economics is like voodoo to you guys and economists are scary shamans, not to be trusted when they speak differently from what you wanted to hear.
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It's not like I actually fact check, or read, most of the sh*t I cut and paste and post.
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the facts say otherwise
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You're more delusional than I thought if you think independents are going to go heavy with the Tea Party.
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And you've already established...

Well, crying about me is certainly one way to avoid admitting that you don't understand economics.
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