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#377 Apr 28 2011 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent

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I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?

His point is that it's possible to be natural and bad or synthetic and good.

Thank you. Honest question, was it my wording, his understanding or a combination of the two? I really don't see how I could have simplified that anymore.

So your point is that even though it is perfectly natural, it's still bad....because? Why?

I hope you're truly trolling... For Pete's sake, the point is, it doesn't matter if homosexual is natural or not. Your opinion should not change. Rape naturally occurs in nature, will you support rape just because animals do it?

Doc: John, I hate to tell you, you have "x"-cancer..

John: <gasp>!!

Doc: Don't worry, it occurred naturally

John: Pheww.. I'm so relieved.

Why don't you just answer my question that you've been avoiding and state why you decided to mention that fact in the first place. How does that fit in this argument?

You may not be intending to compare homosexuality to rape and cancer, but you are comparing them. A better comparison would be hair color or eye color.

Edit: also, rape occurs in nature, not naturally.

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#378 Apr 28 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good

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I must conclude from reading this thread, that if Alma is ever given command of a unit that is sent into to combat, is that those serving under him, should be afraid. Very Afraid!

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#379 Apr 28 2011 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good

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I must conclude from reading this thread, that if Alma is ever given command of a unit that is sent into to combat, is that those serving under him, should be afraid. Very Afraid!

Fear won't save them. They just need to accept their fate. Its the only peace they'll find.

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#380 Almalieque, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 11:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're confusing two different questions. You answered the blind question, I'm referring to why you even mentioned homosexuality being natural in the first place? What impact does that have in this debate?

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#381 Apr 28 2011 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good

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You're confusing two different questions. You answered the blind question, I'm referring to why you even mentioned homosexuality being natural in the first place? What impact does that have in this debate?

And you're wrong, I've seen dogs rape each other. I had a male dog and a female dog and we had to keep them separate because the male dog would chase the female and rape her.

I've already explained my position on homosexuality. I don't care where someone puts his ***** at (within reason), but that doesn't mean I HAVE to support it. Just like I don't care if a woman completely whores herself around town (within reason), that doesn't mean I HAVE to support it.

There is no instruction manual for our bodies. We determined how what should act how and when. When I look at the human body and compare the two sexes, I make the conclusion that the ***** goes in the ****** the same way that society concluded how we use the other parts of our body.

I don't care if you decide to use it another way, but don't say anything to me because I don't support it.

If you're not against it then why exactly are you arguing with me?

As far as dogs go, that's not rape. That's an impulse to mate. If the ***** isn't spayed she'll emit pheromones when she's on heat.

If it's not when she's on heat, it's your male exhibiting a dominance behaviour. Again, not rape. Nice try though.

Oh, and you're still a fucking idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 1:29pm by Nilatai

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#382 Apr 28 2011 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good

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Nilatai wrote:

Oh, and you're still a fucking idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Well, we don't use our fingers to pick our noses due to a societal consensus. Does that count?

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#383 Apr 28 2011 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good

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Uglysasquatch wrote:

Nilatai wrote:

Oh, and you're still a fucking idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Well, we don't use our fingers to pick our noses due to a societal consensus. Does that count?

In public, perhaps. I don't see many people putting their ***** in each other in public either, though.

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places

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#384 Apr 28 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good

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Nilatai wrote:

Uglysasquatch wrote:

Nilatai wrote:

Oh, and you're still a fucking idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Well, we don't use our fingers to pick our noses due to a societal consensus. Does that count?

In public, perhaps. I don't see many people putting their ***** in each other in public either, though.

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 1:41pm by Nilatai

What about ***** in noses?

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#385 Apr 28 2011 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good

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What about ***** in noses?

Well of course, who hasn't?

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#386 Apr 28 2011 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good

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Eske Esquire wrote:

Nilatai wrote:

Uglysasquatch wrote:

Nilatai wrote:

Oh, and you're still a fucking idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Well, we don't use our fingers to pick our noses due to a societal consensus. Does that count?

In public, perhaps. I don't see many people putting their ***** in each other in public either, though.

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 1:41pm by Nilatai

What about ***** in noses?

Aaaaaaand thanks for that particularly disturbing mental image. Smiley: glare

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#387 Apr 28 2011 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good

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Almalieque wrote:

I don't care where someone puts his ***** at (within reason), but that doesn't mean I HAVE to support it.

Then why do homosexuals HAVE to financially support heterosexuals?

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#388 Almalieque, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 11:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're confusing two different questions. You answered the blind question, I'm referring to why you even mentioned homosexuality being natural in the first place? What impact does that have in this debate?

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#389 Apr 28 2011 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good

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Eske Esquire wrote:

Nilatai wrote:

Uglysasquatch wrote:

Nilatai wrote:

Oh, and you're still a fucking idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Well, we don't use our fingers to pick our noses due to a societal consensus. Does that count?

In public, perhaps. I don't see many people putting their ***** in each other in public either, though.

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 1:41pm by Nilatai

What about ***** in noses?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, so exactly how big is your nose?

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#390 Apr 28 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good

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Almalieque wrote:

You're confusing two different questions. You answered the blind question, I'm referring to why you even mentioned homosexuality being natural in the first place? What impact does that have in this debate?

Nilatai wrote:

If you're not against it then why exactly are you arguing with me?

I am against it. I'm arguing against you because you seem to feel that people shouldn't be against it.

There's a slight difference between being against something, and not supporting something.

I can understand if people don't feel the need to support homosexuality, but I don't get the people actively against it.

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#391 Apr 28 2011 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good

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Really Alma, haven't you ever read ER doctors and nurses accounts of people who come in with all types of objects stuck in or on their bodily cavities, that at the time seem like a good idea. The best ones always seem to involve sex in someway.

If you can imagine it, it's most likely been done by someone at sometime in human history.

That's the neat things about human's larger brains, we have a love of exploring ideas that may actually be impossible. Like the need for a God to explain ideas we don't have answers for.

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#392 Apr 28 2011 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good

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Nilatai wrote:

In public, perhaps.

Ever tell someone that you picked your nose? Close to the same result of having done it in public anyway, just with less people.

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#393 Apr 28 2011 at 12:10 PM Rating: Excellent

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****, I never realized that a dog's behaviour was evaluated based on human behaviour patterns.

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#394 Apr 28 2011 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good

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Almalieque wrote:

I am against it. I'm arguing against you because you seem to feel that people shouldn't be against it.

I thought you just said you don't care. How can you both not care about homosexuality and be against it?

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Uh, by human standards, that's rape. The dog was RUNNING AWAY. You can try to spin it all you want, but that wouldn't fly in court.

"Your honor, well she was wearing a tank top with a mini skirt and she was sexually teasing me, so I chased her down and penetrated her and wouldn't let go as she tried to run away."

You're an idiot. Human mating rituals are not the same as canine mating rituals.

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Show me the manual to the human body that was given to us explaining how our bodies should operate.

As far as what parts of the body do you mean? Instinct.

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So you're telling me that doctors have determined what our eye sight should be

No, doctors have determined what the usual eyesight is.

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what our cholesterol should be, what our blood pressure and weight should be, what's a healthy liver, lung and kidney

They've determined what healthy levels are, yes.

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but they are just completely stumped on what to do with the ***** and ******.

Did I say this? I thought you weren't arguing from what is natural?

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And you're calling yourself a scientist?

Yep. Not sure why you do, though, in all honesty.

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#395 Apr 28 2011 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent

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Almalieque wrote:

You're confusing two different questions. You answered the blind question, I'm referring to why you even mentioned homosexuality being natural in the first place? What impact does that have in this debate?

Nilatai wrote:

If you're not against it then why exactly are you arguing with me?

I am against it. I'm arguing against you because you seem to feel that people shouldn't be against it.

Nilatai wrote:

As far as dogs go, that's not rape. That's an impulse to mate. If the ***** isn't spayed she'll emit pheromones when she's on heat.

Uh, by human standards, that's rape. The dog was RUNNING AWAY. You can try to spin it all you want, but that wouldn't fly in court.

"Your honor, well she was wearing a tank top with a mini skirt and she was sexually teasing me, so I chased her down and penetrated her and wouldn't let go as she tried to run away."

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Oh, and you're still a @#%^ing idiot if you think we use parts of our bodies in specific ways because of some kind of societal consensus.

Show me the manual to the human body that was given to us explaining how our bodies should operate.

So you're telling me that doctors have determined what our eye sight should be, what our cholesterol should be, what our blood pressure and weight should be, what's a healthy liver, lung and kidney, but they are just completely stumped on what to do with the ***** and ******.

And you're calling yourself a scientist?

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I am against it. I'm arguing against you because you seem to feel that people shouldn't be against it.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be against it, I'm just saying that the problem is that the people who are against it make a point of trying to make sure that everyone else ends up being against it, to the point of spending hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars to make sure that legislation doesn't go through.

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Show me the manual to the human body that was given to us explaining how our bodies should operate.

Why don't you show us? You're being just as ridiculous as the other side by acting like you have the manual. You're against it, I get it, I'm fine with that, you just need to be able to admit that you can't say that it's unnatural.

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So you're telling me that doctors have determined what our eye sight should be, what our cholesterol should be, what our blood pressure and weight should be, what's a healthy liver, lung and kidney, but they are just completely stumped on what to do with the ***** and ******.

We have established that ***** goes in ******, baby comes out 9 months later. What we don't have all the details about is the way the human brain and attraction works. Not completely at least. You're basically saying that procreation is the only reason anyone should have sex ever. And if you really believe that, then it really must suck to not be getting laid.

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#396 Apr 28 2011 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good

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Uglysasquatch wrote:

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In public, perhaps.

Ever tell someone that you picked your nose? Close to the same result of having done it in public anyway, just with less people.

Fair point, I suppose?

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#397 Apr 28 2011 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good

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Nilatai wrote:

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In public, perhaps.

Ever tell someone that you picked your nose? Close to the same result of having done it in public anyway, just with less people.

Fair point, I suppose?

Fair, but mostly irrelevant.

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#398 Apr 28 2011 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent

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Nilatai wrote:

Almalieque wrote:

Uh, by human standards, that's rape. The dog was RUNNING AWAY. You can try to spin it all you want, but that wouldn't fly in court.

"Your honor, well she was wearing a tank top with a mini skirt and she was sexually teasing me, so I chased her down and penetrated her and wouldn't let go as she tried to run away."

You're an idiot. Human mating rituals are not the same as canine mating rituals.

I'm not surprised he doesn't get this. And now I'm even more afraid of him.

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#399 Almalieque, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 2:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Given the fact that I don't and I've clearly stated that I don't, I'm not sure why you still assume so. A bachelors degree doesn't make you a scientist. Your work in the science field makes you a scientist.

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You realize that in order for there to be a normal person to set as the 20/20 standard, you have to have set an usual eye sight level, yes?

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