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#752 May 08 2011 at 1:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Keep trying, guys. I think he's starting to get receptive to your ideas!


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#753 May 08 2011 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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This one is too easy.. Morals (primarily in religion now) say that you shouldn't be having sex until you're married.


First of all, there is no REAL (as in well thought out philosophical) argument behind the idea that having sex before marriage is immoral. It may be against the so-called moral code of one or more religions but that is irrelevant, because in a pluralistic society (not a theocracy) religion has no overarching mandate to assign moral or immoral value to actions.

In our democratic non-theocratic, pluralist societies, we generally only assign moral or immoral value to things which hurt people or restrict their right to express themselves:

-Killing someone because they stepped on your toe = immoral
-sex between adults with consent = moral or at least neutral
-sex between an adult and a child = immoral

Honestly, plenty of what went on in the bible would be considered immoral by our state and society today:

aka throwing your concubine out of your door to be gang raped and then cutting her into pieces:

Judges chapter 19 wrote:
25 But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. 26 At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight.

27 When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28 He said to her, “Get up; let’s go.” But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.

29 When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel.


But I guess we should take all our morals from a 2000+ year old book of hideous fairy tales, amirite?
#754 May 08 2011 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
I'm sure someone will still quote me as if those are my arguments.... oh well...
So that's why you spent an entire long post talking about them? lol
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#755 May 08 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I'm sure someone will still quote me as if those are my arguments.... oh well...
So that's why you spent an entire long post talking about them? lol


And you saw what just happened right? I tell ya..

I was just proving the fact that it couldn't EVER win on morals...I was challenged and I won. Nothing abnormal.
#756 May 08 2011 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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Not were challenged, are challenged.
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#757 May 08 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
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Not were challenged, are challenged.


Challenged in finding a worthy opponent. Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the correction.. :)
#758 May 08 2011 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Not were challenged, are challenged.


Challenged in finding a worthy opponent. Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the correction.. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
#759 May 08 2011 at 2:31 PM Rating: Default
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Almalieque wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Not were challenged, are challenged.


Challenged in finding a worthy opponent. Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the correction.. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect


My point exactly..
#760 May 08 2011 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Sweetums wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Not were challenged, are challenged.


Challenged in finding a worthy opponent. Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the correction.. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
They really should rename it after Alma.
#761 May 08 2011 at 2:43 PM Rating: Default
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Sweetums wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Not were challenged, are challenged.


Challenged in finding a worthy opponent. Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the correction.. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
They really should rename it after Alma.


As the biggest victim who constantly comes into contact with people who suffers from this, I can see the logic in that.
#762 May 08 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Bardalicious wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Not were challenged, are challenged.


Challenged in finding a worthy opponent. Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the correction.. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
They really should rename it after Alma.


As the biggest victim who constantly comes into contact with people who suffers from this, I can see the logic in that.
That's 'cuz they're all your Facebook friends.
#763 May 08 2011 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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#764Almalieque, Posted: May 08 2011 at 3:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The people I debate on Facebook are typically not my friends... and a big "LOL" for thinking people on this forum is more "balanced" than Facebook...
#765 May 08 2011 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know about more balanced, but here is certainly better informed, in general.

Edited, May 8th 2011 8:20pm by Uglysasquatch
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#766Almalieque, Posted: May 08 2011 at 5:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I can agree with that...
#767 May 08 2011 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know about more balanced, but certainly better informed, in general.


I can agree with that...
Only an idiot like you would agree with that comment, before it was corrected.
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#768 May 08 2011 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
I don't know about more balanced, but certainly better informed, in general.


I can agree with that...
Only an idiot like you would agree with that comment, before it was corrected.


If only I were perfect.....

Edit: Besides your correction is false..

Edited, May 9th 2011 3:59am by Almalieque
#769 May 08 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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This "debate" is starting to look the comments on a youtube video, only with better spelling...
#770 May 08 2011 at 10:54 PM Rating: Good
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[quote=Olorinus the Vile]This "debate" is starting to look the comments on a youtube video, only with better **************************** Alma can't spell.
#771 May 09 2011 at 6:10 AM Rating: Default
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
This "debate" is starting to look the comments on a youtube video, only with better spelling...


Well these posts are merely fillers until Nat responds.. That's currently the main event.
#772 May 09 2011 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
They really should rename it after Alma.
As the biggest victim who constantly comes into contact with people who suffers from this, I can see the logic in that.

Now we're just repeating ourselves.
#773 May 09 2011 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
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#774 May 09 2011 at 7:30 AM Rating: Default
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Allegory wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Bardalicious wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
They really should rename it after Alma.
As the biggest victim who constantly comes into contact with people who suffers from this, I can see the logic in that.

Now we're just repeating ourselves.


It's about time someone noticed...

That's a pretty cool background... I think it's about time I changed background.. How is that done anyway?
#775 May 09 2011 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
It's about time someone noticed...

How often you seriously employ a comeback most common amongst 3td graders?
#776 May 09 2011 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
Allegory wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Bardalicious wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
They really should rename it after Alma.
As the biggest victim who constantly comes into contact with people who suffers from this, I can see the logic in that.

Now we're just repeating ourselves.


It's about time someone noticed...

That's a pretty cool background... I think it's about time I changed background.. How is that done anyway?


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