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#52 Apr 21 2011 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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LeWoVoc wrote:
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Varus, what part of Knoxville qualifies as "city," exactly?


Only a mile and a half from downtown.

I can hear the crowd at neyland stadium clearly from my backyard.

H*ll if you're downtown on a weekend you might see me there jogging with my dog.

Come see me play in Market Square some time. I'll play a backwoods country song just for you. I wouldn't exactly call the area a city, though. The presence of black people does not automatically imply a city environment, and just because it's relatively more city-esque than the rest of the area does not make it even minorly comparable to any real metropolis.


Are you... suggesting that Knoxville isn't a city...?
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#53 Apr 21 2011 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
LeWoVoc wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
lilwoc,

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Varus, what part of Knoxville qualifies as "city," exactly?


Only a mile and a half from downtown.

I can hear the crowd at neyland stadium clearly from my backyard.

H*ll if you're downtown on a weekend you might see me there jogging with my dog.

Come see me play in Market Square some time. I'll play a backwoods country song just for you. I wouldn't exactly call the area a city, though. The presence of black people does not automatically imply a city environment, and just because it's relatively more city-esque than the rest of the area does not make it even minorly comparable to any real metropolis.


Are you... suggesting that Knoxville isn't a city...?
No, but you'd have to try fairly damned hard to say it compares to a Chicago or Philadelphia in any real sense other than the official name.
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Chicago has suburbs larger than the city of Knoxville :D

While I suppose the suburb of Aurora calls itself the City of Aurora, no one regards going to Aurora as being in the city. Matter of perspective, I guess.
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#55 Apr 21 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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LeWoVoc wrote:
No, but you'd have to try fairly damned hard to say it compares to a Chicago or Philadelphia in any real sense other than the official name.


Ah, ok. I was confused.
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#56 Apr 21 2011 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Chicago has suburbs larger than the city of Knoxville :D

While I suppose the suburb of Aurora calls itself the City of Aurora, no one regards going to Aurora as being in the city. Matter of perspective, I guess.

Kind of like how San Jose wants to have its own identity now when everyone knows it will always be just another cow town outside of San Francisco.
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#57 Apr 21 2011 at 2:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Whenever we drive through Knoxville, I always get a giggle out of its one skyscraper. Well, skyscraper is what it wants to be when it grows up. I think it might be about 20 stories high, if that.
#58 Apr 21 2011 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good
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Whenever we drive through Knoxville, I always get a giggle out of its one skyscraper. Well, skyscraper is what it wants to be when it grows up. I think it might be about 20 stories high, if that.


According to Emporis, their tallest one is the Plaza, at 27 stories.

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#59 Apr 21 2011 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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That one shot of the city makes it look like most of the building are pretty tall. In reality they're all just that short, haha.
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#61 Apr 21 2011 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
I can promise you no one south of the mason dixon is saying "hey let's go visit chicago".
They can't pronounce it.
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#62 Apr 21 2011 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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Wait, you're arguing someone else's town is the worst?

Think I'm getting culture shock.
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#63 Apr 21 2011 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
I can promise you no one south of the mason dixon is saying "hey let's go visit chicago".
They can't pronounce it.
Chicago's pretty great, actually. They have a giant @#%^ing reflective bean... and culture. To be completely fair, though, we've never lost most of our city to a clumsy cow. Whether or not that's an even trade for the incest is something you'll have to discern on your own.

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#64 Apr 21 2011 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Jophed,

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Chicago has suburbs larger than the city of Knoxville :D


Chicago is also a sh*t stain on the map. What's your point?


I can promise you no one south of the mason dixon is saying "hey let's go visit chicago".



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So with all of the good vibes coming out of Chicago, how does it show up as the third worst city on our second annual list of America's Most Miserable Cities?

Lousy weather, long commutes, rising unemployment and the highest sales tax rate in the country are to blame for the Windy City being near the top of our list. High rates of corruption by public officials didn't help either



http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/06/most-miserable-cities-business-washington_0206_miserable_cities.html


I can't comment on actually living in Chicago, but visiting Chicago is fun. I know at least 10 people from south of that line that have visited Chicago.
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#65 Apr 21 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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LeWoVoc wrote:
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varusword75 wrote:
I can promise you no one south of the mason dixon is saying "hey let's go visit chicago".
They can't pronounce it.
Chicago's pretty great, actually. They have a giant @#%^ing reflective bean... and culture. To be completely fair, though, we've never lost most of our city to a clumsy cow. Whether or not that's an even trade for the incest is something you'll have to discern on your own.
Chicago is probably the only other city I'd voluntarily want to live in.
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varusword75 wrote:
I can promise you no one south of the mason dixon is saying "hey let's go visit chicago".

I can promise you that no one north or south of anywhere is saying "Hot damn, let's go visit Knoxville." :)
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lolgaxe wrote:
Chicago is probably the only other city I'd voluntarily want to live in.

Are there cities you'd want to live in against your will?
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#68 Apr 21 2011 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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Chicago is probably the only other city I'd voluntarily want to live in.
Are there cities you'd want to live in against your will?
Tokyo would have to be against my will, because that's where my inlaws are. Smiley: mad
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#69 Apr 21 2011 at 4:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
I can promise you no one south of the mason dixon is saying "hey let's go visit chicago".

I can promise you that no one north or south of anywhere is saying "Hot damn, let's go visit Knoxville." :)


Unless they're a rabid Vols fan that used to live in this area. Those people are nuts. I'm married to one.
#70 Apr 22 2011 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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I knew cows were force-fed corn in mass production




Cows are completely unable to digest corn naturally. A diet of corn causes diarrhea, ulcers, bloat, liver disease and a general weakening of the immune system that leaves the cow open to everything from pneumonia to feedlot polio.

To combat this they are fed antibiotics. Most antibiotics sold in the US end up in animal feed. Antibiotics are for treating sick animals, except these animals are only sick because they are fed corn.


Ruminants cannot naturally digest corn.


They should be eating grass.


Eating sick animals is really really bad for you, the animals and the environment.









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#71 Apr 22 2011 at 1:29 AM Rating: Good
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I'm crying for the cows.

Wait, no I'm not, I'm eating my nice thick, tasty, porterhouse steak.
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#72 Apr 22 2011 at 1:42 AM Rating: Good
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
I'm crying for the cows.

Wait, no I'm not, I'm eating my nice thick, tasty, porterhouse steak.


Standard response.

/Golf clap.
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#73 Apr 22 2011 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
I'm crying for the cows.

Wait, no I'm not, I'm eating my nice thick, tasty, porterhouse steak.


Yeah? How much are you going to enjoy it when I turn up to your house with a fine bottle of Scotch in one hand and an amateur proctology kit in the other? When I strap you down and shove the bottle up your arse, letting that fine single malt pour into your rectum, how will you be doing then? What about when I come back, days later, and start pistoning the glass in and out, in and out, letting the necrotic sludge of putrefied flesh lubricate its passage, mixed up as it is in a cocktail of blood, pus and liquefied sh*t? HOW THE FUCK WILL YOU BE DOING THEN, YOU FAT, AMERICAN FUCKER? HOW WILL YOU BE MOTHER-FUCKIN' DOIN' THEN? GOOD? WILL IT BE GOOD, YOU SHIT? WILL IT BE GOOD FOR YOU?

Disclaimer: The above is meant only as an expression of my overwhelming rage, having been expertly trolled by an eminent witticism. I intend no physical harm to Tirith, and certainly have no intention to sexually assault him with a bottle of fine single malt whisky, especially not from the fine folks at Old Pulteney, mmm, taste the Highlands.
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#74 Apr 22 2011 at 3:42 AM Rating: Good
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paulsol wrote:
Eating sick animals is really really bad for you, the animals and the environment.
I wo9uld think eating healthy animals is bad for the animals as well.
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#75 Apr 22 2011 at 3:47 AM Rating: Good
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Eating sick animals is really really bad for you, the animals and the environment.
I wo9uld think eating healthy animals is bad for the animals as well.


Not for the ones doing the eatin'.
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
I'm crying for the cows.

Wait, no I'm not, I'm eating my nice thick, tasty, porterhouse steak.


If that steak was grass-fed, it would taste even better.
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#77 Apr 22 2011 at 5:56 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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Chicago is probably the only other city I'd voluntarily want to live in.

Are there cities you'd want to live in against your will?
Haven't we all dreamed of being jailed in SF?
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#78 Apr 22 2011 at 6:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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So why are cows fed corn anyway?
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Cheap and you can store/bring a pile of corn to them more easily than a pile of grass.
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#80 Apr 22 2011 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
So why are cows fed corn anyway?


It has more to do with energy than price. Grass isn't expensive in itself, but corn has more energy which makes the cows grow faster to slaughter sooner. Grass feeding cows makes them grow slower which makes it more expensive in the long run. I think corn fed cows are slaughtered at 1.5 years and grass is around 4 years.
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#81 Apr 22 2011 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
So why are cows fed corn anyway?
Some might say it's because the government subsidizes corn production. This presumably makes the price of corn less than it's actual production costs.

Also corn is a good filler. Puts lots of weight on cows fast.

A trick out here on the coast is fattening your clams and mussels by feeding them corn meal for a day before steaming. It supposedly causes them to poop out some of the gritty sea-ish mud from the tummy as well. Still, others will claim that without that mud in the clam tummy, the bi-valve isn't nearly as tasty.
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Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
I'm crying for the cows.

Wait, no I'm not, I'm eating my nice thick, tasty, porterhouse steak.


If that steak was grass-fed, it would taste even better.


I buy whole/half cows from my Aunt. This last one was not fed much feed, instead foraging for it's own in the fields. Being that it was too expensive to buy grain for it. But usually the ones fed grain in the barns (I'm not a farmer, I don't know the details/terminology) are better tasting. Probably because they are fatter. She doesn't raise them on corn.
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paulsol wrote:
Cows are completely unable to digest corn naturally. A diet of corn causes diarrhea, ulcers, bloat, liver disease and a general weakening of the immune system that leaves the cow open to everything from pneumonia to feedlot polio.

Is that why livestock farms smell so bad?
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So here's a new twist to the corporate food ishewww.

The public is getting educated. The demand for fresh local food goes up. Local entrepreneurial farmers attempting to meet that demand are, allegedly - at least around here, being stymied by federal and state regulation. The same regs that are purportedly NOT sufficient to keep our food and workers safe from the profit-hungry multi-nationals. STORY

What to do, what to do???
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Chicago is probably the only other city I'd voluntarily want to live in.
Are there cities you'd want to live in against your will?
Tokyo would have to be against my will, because that's where my inlaws are. Smiley: mad


Well, that and the radiation.
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#86 Apr 26 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
So here's a new twist to the corporate food ishewww.

The public is getting educated. The demand for fresh local food goes up. Local entrepreneurial farmers attempting to meet that demand are, allegedly - at least around here, being stymied by federal and state regulation. The same regs that are purportedly NOT sufficient to keep our food and workers safe from the profit-hungry multi-nationals. STORY

What to do, what to do???

You mean over-regulation by "well-intentioned" liberals leads to unintended consequences?

Who'd have thought, what with nothing in the recent past showing "well-intentioned" liberals f'uck things up. You know what? They should totally get involved in the lending industry next. They should outlaw red-lining and force banks to make loans to people who can't pay them back.
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