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#102 REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2011 at 10:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Atard,

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#103 Apr 18 2011 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good

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Jophed,

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Again, he's better served by having the Birthers of the fringe Right wing embarrassing the party.

Well except they aren't the fringe. The people are seeing Obama as either intentionally divisive or a someone who's got something to hide.

Don't pretend that the majority of the people believe this garbage.

Nope, I just polled 10 people, apparently majority of the United States believes so.

Great, now I don't know which thread I'm in.

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#104 Apr 18 2011 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good

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The only ones who don't believe it these days are the radical liberal left.

Looks like only 28% of republicans believe it, 30% of republicans don't know, 42% of republicans don't believe it. I'm not sure about democrats, but I would guess that close to 100% don't believe it.

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#105 Apr 18 2011 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent

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Well except they aren't the fringe.

Even better for Obama that you believe that :)

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#106 Apr 18 2011 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent

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I assume so, although I confess I haven't been paying close attention.

My take on this is that it won't take four years for this to filter through the court system and be dismissed as unconstitutional. But we'll see; maybe it's written better than most reactive laws tend to be.

Maybe it isn't about Obama >:P maybe they just want to be sure that noone from new Jersey ever runs for President...

Really, all this does is make me wonder what kind of drugs Arizona's politicians are taking. I just don't get how a long or short form birth certificate will prove citizenship.

In my eyes, all this is doing is making the birthers look crazy like Palin and that alone would influence me to vote FOR Obama. (I voted for him last time and I still really like him.)

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#107 Apr 18 2011 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent

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The AZ law allows for alternate forms of proof if a "long form" birth certificate isn't available. It might violate the Full Faith & Credit Clause; I'm not worried about the law's impact on the 2012 elections so I haven't invested myself enough to look into it.

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#108 Apr 18 2011 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good

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Almalieque wrote:

Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:

varusword75 wrote:

Jophed,

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Again, he's better served by having the Birthers of the fringe Right wing embarrassing the party.

Well except they aren't the fringe. The people are seeing Obama as either intentionally divisive or a someone who's got something to hide.

Don't pretend that the majority of the people believe this garbage.

Nope, I just polled 10 people, apparently majority of the United States believes so.

Not statistically significant. Jesus you really do suck at this.

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#109 Apr 18 2011 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent

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It's actually kind of ironic, all of this work is probably hurting The Governator from ever becoming president.

I wasn't aware that Arnold could become the president. (unless Trump is the governator and ive been telling the joke wrong all these years.) Since he is knowingly not an American born citizen.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 1:56pm by rdmcandie

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#110 Apr 18 2011 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good

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I'm all for this bill if it keeps Arnold and anyone from New Jersey out of the Presidency.

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#111 Apr 18 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent

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I'm all for this bill if it keeps Arnold and anyone from New Jersey out of the Presidency.

I'm not too sure about that, Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) actually managed to beat Watson in Jeopardy. That'd be interesting to see in a presidential race. Good luck trying to elect a Quaker, though, the only 2 in history were Hoover and Nixon. To be fair, neither of them had Ph.Ds.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 1:09pm by bsphil

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#112 Apr 18 2011 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent

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That'd be interesting to see in a presidential race.

"Hrmm... I like Holt's plan to readjust the capital gains tax but then Watson's 'Create an android army to enslave the human race' plan has some merits as well. Oh well, all these politicians are the same anyway no matter who I vote for..."

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#113 REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2011 at 12:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,

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#114 Apr 18 2011 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent

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varusword75 wrote:

Jophed,

So the more people that believe Obama is ineligible to be president the better in your opinion? Definitly liberal logic at work.

No, and that could be disproven by just stepping through logic, but we know how frightened you get by that.

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#115 Apr 18 2011 at 1:32 PM Rating: Excellent

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So the more people that believe Obama is ineligible to be president the better in your opinion?

No, but the more people fringers like you convince yourself agree with you, the better it is for Obama.

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#116 Apr 18 2011 at 2:03 PM Rating: Default

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rdmcandie wrote:

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It's actually kind of ironic, all of this work is probably hurting The Governator from ever becoming president.

I wasn't aware that Arnold could become the president. (unless Trump is the governator and ive been telling the joke wrong all these years.) Since he is knowingly not an American born citizen.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 1:56pm by rdmcandie

Hence the point of my statement. You misinterpreted it.

Arnold is trying to REMOVE the necessity of being a natural born citizen.

This AZ law is ENFORCING the law.

So, by ENFORCING the law, it is hurting Arnold's campaign of REMOVING the law. Assuming this is a "Republican" move against the "Democrats", it is ironic since the Governator (who could win if he ran) is a Republican.

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#117 Apr 18 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent

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Almalieque wrote:

rdmcandie wrote:

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It's actually kind of ironic, all of this work is probably hurting The Governator from ever becoming president.

I wasn't aware that Arnold could become the president. (unless Trump is the governator and ive been telling the joke wrong all these years.) Since he is knowingly not an American born citizen.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 1:56pm by rdmcandie

Hence the point of my statement. You misinterpreted it.

Arnold is trying to REMOVE the necessity of being a natural born citizen.

This AZ law is ENFORCING the law.

So, by ENFORCING the law, it is hurting Arnold's campaign of REMOVING the law. Assuming this is a "Republican" move against the "Democrats", it is ironic since the Governator (who could win if he ran) is a Republican.

lolololol. wow.

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#118 Apr 18 2011 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent

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After his governor stint, I'm under the impression that Gov. Schwarzenegger has no designs on higher office, regardless of Constitutional eligibility.

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#119 Apr 18 2011 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent

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Not statistically significant. Jesus you really do suck at this.

I told you he couldn't understand this. Its far too complicated. Stop picking on the ******* ******.

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#120 Apr 18 2011 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good

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Bardalicious wrote:

Almalieque wrote:

rdmcandie wrote:

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It's actually kind of ironic, all of this work is probably hurting The Governator from ever becoming president.

I wasn't aware that Arnold could become the president. (unless Trump is the governator and ive been telling the joke wrong all these years.) Since he is knowingly not an American born citizen.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 1:56pm by rdmcandie

Hence the point of my statement. You misinterpreted it.

Arnold is trying to REMOVE the necessity of being a natural born citizen.

This AZ law is ENFORCING the law.

So, by ENFORCING the law, it is hurting Arnold's campaign of REMOVING the law. Assuming this is a "Republican" move against the "Democrats", it is ironic since the Governator (who could win if he ran) is a Republican.

lolololol. wow.

Either the dude's brain just plain works differently from most peoples', or he'll say anything to avoid admitting a mistake. Sometimes I think it's a little of both.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 4:40pm by Eske

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Eske Esquire wrote:

Bardalicious wrote:

Almalieque wrote:

rdmcandie wrote:

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It's actually kind of ironic, all of this work is probably hurting The Governator from ever becoming president.

I wasn't aware that Arnold could become the president. (unless Trump is the governator and ive been telling the joke wrong all these years.) Since he is knowingly not an American born citizen.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 1:56pm by rdmcandie

Hence the point of my statement. You misinterpreted it.

Arnold is trying to REMOVE the necessity of being a natural born citizen.

This AZ law is ENFORCING the law.

So, by ENFORCING the law, it is hurting Arnold's campaign of REMOVING the law. Assuming this is a "Republican" move against the "Democrats", it is ironic since the Governator (who could win if he ran) is a Republican.

lolololol. wow.

Either the dude's brain just plain works differently from most peoples', or he'll say anything to avoid admitting a mistake. Sometimes I think it's a little of both.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 4:40pm by Eske

In before "I'm the only one who admits my mistakes!! NO one here does that, ever, only me!!!"

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#122 Apr 18 2011 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good

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bsphil wrote:

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I'm all for this bill if it keeps Arnold and anyone from New Jersey out of the Presidency.

I'm not too sure about that, Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) actually managed to beat Watson in Jeopardy. That'd be interesting to see in a presidential race. Good luck trying to elect a Quaker, though, the only 2 in history were Hoover and Nixon. To be fair, neither of them had Ph.Ds.

I'm not saying I don't want an unqualified President from New Jersey. I'm saying I don't want a President from New Jersey. Kind of like I don't want another President from the South.

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#123 REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2011 at 3:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,

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No, but the more people fringers like you convince yourself agree with you, the better it is for Obama.

And the more fringers like yourself exclaim there's no issue the louder the cries for his birth certificate get. Most independents are sick of hearing about this and are going to put this all on Obama for failing to release any info.

OR, the more sick of this the independents get, the more likely they're going to think the birthers are nuts and disregard it.

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#126 Apr 18 2011 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent

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Independents know that if the "birthers" havn't given up for the last 5yrs they're not likely to anytime soon.

Too bad the birthers don't seem to realize that nothing they do on this particular issue will change the independent's mind. Good use of five years.

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