Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
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I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
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Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
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Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
I'm telling you that I would because if you're misusing statistics in one scenario, you'll probably misuse it in another scenario.
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
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#407Almalieque,
Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Is that really how "program" is spelled there? I can bypass the unnecessary "u's", but an unnecessary "-me". That almost looks French....
Almalieque wrote:
That almost looks French....
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We spell the following words like this too: "Centre" not "center" and "through" not "thru".
Edited, May 22nd 2011 8:11am by Nilatai
Edited, May 22nd 2011 8:11am by Nilatai
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nilatai wrote:
We spell the following words like this too: "Centre" not "center" and "through" not "thru". It's nice to use a language as it was intended and not bastardise it.
Interesting... I didn't know the difference between "thru" and "through".. I actually thought "thru" was Internet slang. I'm all for bastardizing the language for the better though. I always use the words "dough" and "tough" in why English is unnecessarily difficult. For whatever reason, those two words don't rhyme.
British English is closer to it's French and Germanic roots than US English is, is all.
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
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They are just helping people to ridicule God and the church like so many others.. Not in trying to spread The Word but their own ideas to feed their ego.
not to mention:
Romans 2:23-24 wrote:
You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? For, as it is written: The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.
not to mention:
James 1:26 wrote:
If anyone thinks he is religious, without controlling his tongue but deceiving his heart, his religion is useless.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
They are just helping people to ridicule God and the church like so many others.. Not in trying to spread The Word but their own ideas to feed their ego.
not to mention:
Romans 2:23-24 wrote:
You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? For, as it is written: The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.
not to mention:
James 1:26 wrote:
If anyone thinks he is religious, without controlling his tongue but deceiving his heart, his religion is useless.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
bsphil wrote:
Kelvyquayo wrote:
They are just helping people to ridicule God and the church like so many others.. Not in trying to spread The Word but their own ideas to feed their ego.
not to mention:
Romans 2:23-24 wrote:
You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? For, as it is written: The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.
not to mention:
James 1:26 wrote:
If anyone thinks he is religious, without controlling his tongue but deceiving his heart, his religion is useless.
Is something that I said here in conflict with that??
Kelvyquayo wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Kelvyquayo wrote:
They are just helping people to ridicule God and the church like so many others.. Not in trying to spread The Word but their own ideas to feed their ego.
not to mention:
Romans 2:23-24 wrote:
You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? For, as it is written: The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.
not to mention:
James 1:26 wrote:
If anyone thinks he is religious, without controlling his tongue but deceiving his heart, his religion is useless.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
Um... Aren't you accusing him of doing exactly what you are doing right now?
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gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
Um... Aren't you accusing him of doing exactly what you are doing right now?
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Get a grip Alma.
Unless the numbers are blatantly wrong, like miscounted or whatever, statistics don't mislead. The interpretation does. Simply deciding what data you to choose, then how you analyse and interpret that data leads (or misleads) to the a conclusion.
It's one thing to be all ethical-like in defense of the truth, but this isn't that.
Unless the numbers are blatantly wrong, like miscounted or whatever, statistics don't mislead. The interpretation does. Simply deciding what data you to choose, then how you analyse and interpret that data leads (or misleads) to the a conclusion.
It's one thing to be all ethical-like in defense of the truth, but this isn't that.
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Nilatai wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
Um... Aren't you accusing him of doing exactly what you are doing right now?
Did he? The point is that you're taking a side regarding said statistics apparently entirely because they support your position. Which is exactly what you're speculating he would do if the situation was reversed. Surely, you can see the irony.
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More words please
Elinda wrote:
Get a grip Alma.
Unless the numbers are blatantly wrong, like miscounted or whatever, statistics don't mislead. The interpretation does. Simply deciding what data you to choose, then how you analyse and interpret that data leads (or misleads) to the a conclusion.
It's one thing to be all ethical-like in defense ofthe truthsomething I agree with, but this isn't that.
Unless the numbers are blatantly wrong, like miscounted or whatever, statistics don't mislead. The interpretation does. Simply deciding what data you to choose, then how you analyse and interpret that data leads (or misleads) to the a conclusion.
It's one thing to be all ethical-like in defense of
Same deal. What is "truth"?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Same deal. What is "truth"?
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gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
Um... Aren't you accusing him of doing exactly what you are doing right now?
Did he? The point is that you're taking a side regarding said statistics apparently entirely because they support your position. Which is exactly what you're speculating he would do if the situation was reversed. Surely, you can see the irony.
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nilatai wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
I'm arguing against misleading statistics. It doesn't matter what the topic is, it's wrong.
Um... Aren't you accusing him of doing exactly what you are doing right now?
Did he? The point is that you're taking a side regarding said statistics apparently entirely because they support your position. Which is exactly what you're speculating he would do if the situation was reversed. Surely, you can see the irony.
Almalieque wrote:
I wanted to show the clip of **** Morris on The Factor explaining exactly what I've argued, but it doesn't appear to be a video on the net. I guess it wasn't popular enough. I did find an excerpt from his website though. I'm not arguing for/against his personal opinion on the subject matter, but only the concept of how polls should be conducted.
I'm not being a hypocrite, you just failed to understand the point. I blatantly said that I was not for/against his claim, but only the concept of how polls should be conducted. In this case, equally distributed between Republican and Democrat likely voters.
If you remember anything from the original debate, Bsphil (with others) claimed that any random 1000 poll accurately represents the U.S. I countered to say that is not necessarily the case. That's when I used the marble scenario to prove that the percentage of the necessary sample to guarantee a majority changes when the population favor percentages change.
Nilatai wrote:
What's funny is, I can't help but think you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot, Alma.
Nilatai wrote:
Yes but would you be so vocal if the "misleading statistics" supported your position? I don't think so.
Nilatai wrote:
I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Alma complaining about misleading statistics when he often posts misleading statistics.
That's not even remotely what you were pointing out. You were arguing that Alma would take a different position on those statistics if he agreed with the resulting conclusions. Which I found ironic given that you *were* doing exactly that. In your case, you believe that gays in the military are no big deal and just as you predict, you have no problems with statistics showing that gays in the military are no big deal.
It just amused me that you couldn't see that you were doing the exact same thing you were speculating that Alma would do if circumstances were reversed.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
He would and has. Why do I have to explain to you that it's not speculation if it's par for the course?
I'm not complaining about how polls are unfair, though. Also, I never argued from statistics that gays in the military were no big deal, did I?
Edited, May 25th 2011 6:22pm by Nilatai
I'm not complaining about how polls are unfair, though. Also, I never argued from statistics that gays in the military were no big deal, did I?
Edited, May 25th 2011 6:22pm by Nilatai
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nilatai wrote:
Also, I never argued from statistics that gays in the military were no big deal, did I?
That's backwards. The question is whether you would have no problem with statistics showing something you already agree with. You said this earlier in the thread:
Nilatai wrote:
As far as DADT goes, it was an archaic piece of legislation. It had it's day in the Sun and now it's dead. Good riddance if you ask me. All that should enter your mind is if the man standing next to you is a good soldier, and if he has your back. If he has yours, you should have his.
Has it occurred to you that the reason you accept the very statistics Alma disagrees with is because those statistics support a position you already hold? And isn't that exactly what you said Alma would do if the situation were reversed? The point I'm making is that for you the situation is reversed and you are exhibiting exactly the same behavior you predicted (and attacked) Alma for.
Pot... Kettle. That's all I'm saying.
Edited, May 25th 2011 3:32pm by gbaji
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