Eske Esquire wrote:
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 12:36pm by Eske
Interesting counter...
I would love for you to provide a solution that will reduce or eliminate potentially having unintentional favoritism that isn't one of the two.
·Theme
- Forums
- Cross Site
- The Asylum
- SERVE
SERVEFollow
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 12:36pm by Eske
Interesting counter...
I would love for you to provide a solution that will reduce or eliminate potentially having unintentional favoritism that isn't one of the two.
Leave it to Alma to ruin a perfectly good discussion on Fries.
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
rdmcandie wrote:
Leave it to Alma to ruin a perfectly good discussion on Fries.
Well, I'm sure that portion is done as it's impossible to provide such a solution.
Back on topic. French Fries is my favorite food. In the order of my preference: McDonalds > Burger King > Wendys > Chick-fil-a
Almalieque wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
if you want to know how the majority feels about something that is so evenly split, you're going to need more than 1,000 people, especially if it's truly random.
Oh, well.. It's your denial.. I sourced it for you. So if you choose to believe otherwise, that's fine, but I choose to live in reality. I do find it quite hilarious that the person claiming that I don't know anything about samples in actuality didn't know anything about samples. I admit, you had me going at one point. I thought you actually knew what you were talking about in reference to samples, just confused on my point. Twas a nice run...
But if you need the last word, I can give it to you. just to make you feel a little bit better.
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 2:26pm by bsphil
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
Almalieque wrote:
I don't even need to use my BS in mathematics to prove that wrong... The ball is now in your court..
While I somehow highly doubt you have any sort of degree in anything, having a BS in mathematics still does not prevent you from being wrong. Which, in this case, you are.
ETA: Also, any reputable university requires at least one stat course of most undergrads, and definitely for math majors. Yet you knew nothing about statistics until you were forced to read a wikipedia article about it. So either you were lying then or you're lying now.
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 3:43pm by Majivo
I've got a BS in BS.
Alma's degree is from an lolonline school.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Almalieque wrote:
I don't even need to use my BS in mathematics to prove that wrong... The ball is now in your court..
Don't be that guy...nobody likes that guy.
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I don't even need to use my BS in mathematics to prove that wrong... The ball is now in your court..
Don't be that guy...nobody likes that guy.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Bsphil wrote:
Statistical theory doesn't become invalid when two outcomes are equally likely. Coin flipping would be a mess if that were the case. Keep telling yourself you live in reality - whatever it takes for you. Everyone around you is well aware of how inept you are; there's really no reason to further this discussion.
I referenced you wrong.. get over it, move on.
Majivo wrote:
While I somehow highly doubt you have any sort of degree in anything, having a BS in mathematics still does not prevent you from being wrong. Which, in this case, you are.
ETA: Also, any reputable university requires at least one stat course of most undergrads, and definitely for math majors. Yet you knew nothing about statistics until you were forced to read a wikipedia article about it. So either you were lying then or you're lying now.
You're such a tool. I've already proven my double BS major when someone claimed that I was a poor uneducated white woman for supporting Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Presidential election. I guessed you missed that thread. Then I was ridiculed for proving myself... (Heh,You can't win...)
Anyways, you're wrong. Statistics is it's own completely different major. So, there is no need to require Statistics no more than requiring Physics. I did take two stat classes and one Prob and Queuing (Comp Sci, my other major). In any case, that was 5 years ago. Stats was not my major, I forgot. Crap, I don't easily recall most of the stuff I learned right off the bat, because I don't use it everyday. It's the "use it or lose it" concept. To claim that I didn't major in subject x, because I don't remember something from a class I took for a completely different subject 5 years ago is stupid.
My point, which you obviously missed, is that my argument isn't based on any "complex" stat theory, but basic and simple math.
So, you're wrong in both assumptions.
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I don't even need to use my BS in mathematics to prove that wrong... The ball is now in your court..
Don't be that guy...nobody likes that guy.
Trust me, if I understand your reference, I'm not that guy. I don't like telling people my major, because I basically studied my way through, but most people think you must be a genius to major in math. My other major is Computer Science, but most people have no clue what that is, so I get asked to fix people computers and crap... so sometimes, I do wish I had a loldegree. not really
I just knew that some idiot would respond with "YOU DON'T HAVE A DEGREE!!! Dur".. Funny how the guy who ignores people trolls him, continuously respond to me...
Almalieque wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
But if you need the last word, I can give it to you.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
"I have a BS in math so that means I know what I'm talking about. Except I don't remember any of it. Oh yeah and I didn't even take a statistics course."
bsphil wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
But if you need the last word, I can give it to you.
I totally forgot about that..Sorry bad habit... Say something stupid and incorrect again. Besides, I said that I "can" give it to you, didn't say I was. I specifically said that for that reason...
Majivo wrote:
While I somehow highly doubt you have any sort of degree in anything,
This isn't a compliment.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I don't even need to use my BS in mathematics to prove that wrong... The ball is now in your court..
Don't be that guy...nobody likes that guy.
It's oddly liberating, really.
lolgaxe wrote:
Majivo wrote:
While I somehow highly doubt you have any sort of degree in anything,
This isn't a compliment.
You should really consider jumping ship to the dark side. If you lost SSG more than once while being able to get it back within only a few years, that means you probably know what you're doing. I'm not sure how true it is, but I heard that stuff on your record makes it hard for you to get SFC/MSG/SGM.
You practically start over as an officer. You might take a pay cut at first, but you'll definitely make it up with pretty much guaranteed promotion, especially if you're planning on staying in forever.
At least go Warrant..
Almalieque wrote:
Anyways, you're wrong. Statistics is it's own completely different major. So, there is no need to require Statistics no more than requiring Physics.
Shit, you're right! Let me just go to the dean of my school and tell him that I don't have to take any English classes, or humanities, or hell, even unrelated sciences, because they have their own major!
Oh wait, no, you're just a moron. Of course it's fucking required. With a BS in Mathematics, you'd almost certainly have to have taken some sort of course illustrating the mathematical foundations of statistical theory, and along the way you'd have to learn something about how to actually analyze statistical data. This is true of virtually any school in the US.
Also, stats is a "completely different" class from everything else you took? What kind of blackmail did you have on your professors? You obviously aren't that bright if you believe that somehow the same principles don't apply to it as ordinary mathematical analysis, so it's hard to understand how you managed to graduate.
This is, of course, all ignoring the point that you're just plain wrong and have a deeply flawed understanding of the statistical principles at play here. This isn't very surprising given that you just admitted that everything you currently know about statistics, you pulled off of a Wikipedia page.
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 6:21pm by Majivo
Majivo wrote:
sh*t, you're right! Let me just go to the dean of my school and tell him that I don't have to take any English classes, or humanities, or hell, even unrelated sciences, because they have their own major!
It's not my fault that you don't know the difference between Gen Ed classes and Major Core courses. Statistics typically isn't a GenEd class.
Majivo wrote:
Oh wait, no, you're just a moron.
Read above..
Majivo wrote:
Of course it's @#%^ing required. With a BS in Mathematics, you'd almost certainly have to have taken some sort of course illustrating the mathematical foundations of statistical theory, and along the way you'd have to learn something about how to actually analyze statistical data. This is true of virtually any school in the US.
You may not know this, but math is divided into two major fields, abstract and application. It is blatantly obvious that you're talking out of your **** and don't know what you're talking about. Statistics for a math major is like taking Real Analysis, Partial Differential Equations or Topology. It's not necessary unless it's part of your concentration, which should never be, because you would be majoring in statistics.
Just because Statistics uses math, doesn't make it more necessary.
To be fair, I took the Comp Sci version of Probability, but from my explanation, the math version of the class focused more on proofing. So I can't speak as if I know that class, but I assure you, statistics do not weigh as heavily as you are proclaiming.
Majivo wrote:
Also, stats is a "completely different" class from everything else you took? What kind of blackmail did you have on your professors? You obviously aren't that bright if you believe that somehow the same principles don't apply to it as ordinary mathematical analysis, so it's hard to understand how you managed to graduate.
What? Once again, math is divided into Abstract and Application. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Majivo wrote:
This is, of course, all ignoring the point that you're just plain wrong and have a deeply flawed understanding of the statistical principles at play here. This isn't very surprising given that you just admitted that everything you currently know about statistics, you pulled off of a Wikipedia page.
If you don't trust wiki, but some other random page on the Internet, then look at the sources provided by Wiki. Unless you can prove to me that a greater percentage of a population doesn't represent a greater portion of that population where accuracy is increased, then politely STFU.
Edit: I can see stats weighing more in abstract math, but I don't know because I did application, which further proves my point....
Edit 2: I just remembered (if that's correct, have to check my transcript), I only took one stat class and one pro/que class and I had to get approval to have that stat class even count for my math major.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2011 1:57am by Almalieque
Edited, Apr 23rd 2011 2:01am by Almalieque
Almalieque wrote:
Majivo wrote:
sh*t, you're right! Let me just go to the dean of my school and tell him that I don't have to take any English classes, or humanities, or hell, even unrelated sciences, because they have their own major!
It's not my fault that you don't know the difference between Gen Ed classes and Major Core courses. Statistics typically isn't a GenEd class.
For many majors it's required despite being only marginally related. For a math major, it is certainly required. Hell, you took two yourself, even if you don't remember.
Almalieque wrote:
You may not know this, but math is divided into two major fields, abstract and application. It is blatantly obvious that you're talking out of your **** and don't know what you're talking about.
Since I'm pursuing such a degree myself, your claim would be rather off the mark. You're speaking as though your school is representative of all schools everywhere, which is plainly false. Regardless, even if you studied the 'abstract' part of math, you probably would've learned the basis of statistical theory. If you studied 'applicable' math (as you claim to) then the odds of you studying it increase dramatically because statistics is one of the most broadly applicable fields there is.
Almalieque wrote:
Statistics for a math major is like taking Real Analysis, Partial Differential Equations or Topology. It's not necessary unless it's part of your concentration, which should never be, because you would be majoring in statistics.
So the only reason you should be taking a stats class is if you're.. majoring in stats? And yet you took two? How did you manage to reach this brilliant leap of logic?
Almalieque wrote:
Majivo wrote:
This is, of course, all ignoring the point that you're just plain wrong and have a deeply flawed understanding of the statistical principles at play here. This isn't very surprising given that you just admitted that everything you currently know about statistics, you pulled off of a Wikipedia page.
If you don't trust wiki, but some other random page on the Internet, then look at the sources provided by Wiki. Unless you can prove to me that a greater percentage of a population doesn't represent a greater portion of that population where accuracy is increased, then politely STFU.
I don't need to trust any page on the Internet, because unlike you, I actually do have a background in statistics, meaning I actually know what I'm talking about. Though you've managed to change your argument from what you originally claimed, so good job!
Almalieque wrote:
Edit: I can see stats weighing more in abstract math, but I don't know because I did application, which further proves my point....
Do you even know the difference between abstract and applicable math? Seriously. This statement makes no goddamn sense.
I had to take statistics in college and I majored in food science. I also took a statistical process control course.
Majivo wrote:
For many majors it's required despite being only marginally related. For a math major, it is certainly required. Hell, you took two yourself, even if you don't remember.
Just no... I'm not sure we're even talking about the same major.
Majivo wrote:
Since I'm pursuing such a degree myself, your claim would be rather off the mark. You're speaking as though your school is representative of all schools everywhere, which is plainly false. Regardless, even if you studied the 'abstract' part of math, you probably would've learned the basis of statistical theory. If you studied 'applicable' math (as you claim to) then the odds of you studying it increase dramatically because statistics is one of the most broadly applicable fields there is.
Read above. You couldn't be further from the truth. Math is the one of the most broadly applicable fields there is. You have it backwards. Statistics use math, not the other way around.
The abstract portion of math is more likely to use statistics because there is more proofing involved. Studying Application dramatically DECREASES the odds of you studying statistics, because everything is already proven. There is no reason to know stats in P.D.E... Do you even know what Applied Math is? Again, you're talking out of your *****
Majivo wrote:
So the only reason you should be taking a stats class is if you're.. majoring in stats? And yet you took two? How did you manage to reach this brilliant leap of logic?
Did you read what I told you? The first class was a probability and queuing class for my Comp Sic major (because I'm a double major) and I had to get approved for the stat class. It almost didn't even count, because I'm a math major. It was the only upper division class that would fit my schedule as my election sequence. Fortunately my Math adviser was the head of the department and say that he's authorized to "overwrite" one class and that was the one.
Majivo wrote:
I don't need to trust any page on the Internet, because unlike you, I actually do have a background in statistics, meaning I actually know what I'm talking about. Though you've managed to change your argument from what you originally claimed, so good job!
Really? I just googled probability vs non-probability sampling and every single source on the first page said the same exact thing, but I guess the Internet is wrong and you're right... Got it....
Quote:
Do you even know the difference between abstract and applicable math? Seriously. This statement makes no goddamn sense.
That's my question to you? WTF is your major? You're sadly mistaken.. Go ask your math professor. You're probably some mislead Engineer. You sound like one.. lol
Edited, Apr 23rd 2011 3:05am by Almalieque
Almalieque wrote:
You should really consider jumping ship to the dark side. If you lost SSG more than once while being able to get it back within only a few years, that means you probably know what you're doing.
I've mentioned it in another thread, but I enjoy my rank. I've already got a BBA, so its not like I have far to go. We'll see in the future. I really have no love for officers, though.
Edit: Oh, and just to show I did do the research, you don't get a pay cut changing from NCO to Warrant or Officer. You make your highest pay grade until the "new rank" catches up to it.
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 9:11pm by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
You should really consider jumping ship to the dark side. If you lost SSG more than once while being able to get it back within only a few years, that means you probably know what you're doing.
I've mentioned it in another thread, but I enjoy my rank. I've already got a BBA, so its not like I have far to go. We'll see in the future. I really have no love for officers, though.
Edit: Oh, and just to show I did do the research, you don't get a pay cut changing from NCO to Warrant or Officer. You make your highest pay grade until the "new rank" catches up to it.
Edited, Apr 22nd 2011 9:11pm by lolgaxe
I don't know, some of the best officers I had were former enlisted.
Almalieque wrote:
The abstract portion of math is more likely to use statistics because there is more proofing involved. Studying Application dramatically DECREASES the odds of you studying statistics, because everything is already proven. There is no reason to know stats in P.D.E.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. At this point I'm not even sure you know what the field of statistics is. How the fuck would you possibly need statistics to prove anything, unless the thing you're trying to prove is in the field of statistics? And if you think statistics isn't very important to applied mathematics, go ask an actuary how often they end up using it in their job.
Recent Visitors: 265
All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (265)
- Forums
- Cross Site
- The Asylum
- SERVE
© 2024 Fanbyte LLC