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#152 REDACTED, Posted: May 09 2011 at 8:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Drift,

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#153 May 09 2011 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good

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lol...how many people have you ever employeed?

If you're running a successful business and running it properly, then the costs of paying one's employees should be covered by the profits, while still leaving enough for the owner(s) to retain an adequate(or more than adequate depending on the profit).

If you're paying employees out of your own pocket, either your business is losing money, or you're employing more people than you can afford.

I'm not sure exactly what varus was attacking in Kachi's post, but I can promise you, that lower stress is not part of the equation, typically.

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#154 May 09 2011 at 8:18 AM Rating: Decent

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Unsurprising you completely missed the point; it's not the money I was referring to. Try again

You meant the stress? Sorry, usually tends to be money when it comes to your posts like that. Anyone who thinks that going into business of any sort isn't going to be stressful, really shouldn't go into business.

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#155 May 09 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent

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Driftwood wrote:

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lol...how many people have you ever employeed?

If you're running a successful business and running it properly, then the costs of paying one's employees should be covered by the profits, while still leaving enough for the owner(s) to retain an adequate(or more than adequate depending on the profit).

If you're paying employees out of your own pocket, either your business is losing money, or you're employing more people than you can afford.

Or you're still starting up. When my mom co-owned her own physical therapy clinic she couldn't cash about a half a year's worth of her own paychecks because she just didn't have the money on hand (though she was able to pay the two other employees they did have at their clinic). Wasn't until they were able to sign a contract with Kohler company here in WI to do their outpatient PT that she could start paying herself.

Mind you, once that happened, she was able to pay herself very well.

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#156 May 09 2011 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent

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Kachi wrote:

gosh damn

Really?

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#157 REDACTED, Posted: May 09 2011 at 12:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bsphil,

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#158 May 09 2011 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good

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And it usually takes at least 5yrs before the business is rolling along.

That's probably more of a specific industry thing. Hotels expect to stabilize in year 3 most often, although it can take up to 5 years.

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#159 REDACTED, Posted: May 09 2011 at 1:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ugly,

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#160 May 09 2011 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good

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And it usually takes at least 5yrs before the business is rolling along.

Ah, they were doing fine much quicker than that. It was about 5 years when they ended up losing their contract with Kohler because she refused to say that a very clear case of on the job injury was not caused on the job (Kohler was trying to get out of covering the costs of rehabilitation). They ended up contracting to a different clinic who would say that it wasn't an on the job injury. Was one of the big reasons she ended up volunteering for the Obama campaign in 2007-2008 despite being a lifelong Republican because she had gotten sick of big businesses, lol.

She stopped giving a shit about it a few years ago now and is retired.

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#161 REDACTED, Posted: May 09 2011 at 3:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bsphil,

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#162 May 09 2011 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent

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varusword75 wrote:

Boy did she make a mistake.

I'm sure you'd like to think that.

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#163 May 09 2011 at 6:33 PM Rating: Default

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I'm actually very receptive to legitimate arguments that contradict my own, but like most people here, insults and a few vocal opponents alone aren't enough to convince me that I'm wrong. I apologize for requiring arguments more compelling than some of you are willing or able to provide. And I acknowledge that there's a subset of people that find me unlikable. They happen to be the people that matter the least to me, but they are endlessly fun to fuck with. They also seem to like the attention. Further, I am aware that comments like these make me less likable to the average person. I really don't feel too bad about this whole arrangement.

As for being a CEO/manager, if you have high stress AND don't have the resources to manage that stress, you are most likely incompetent and/or unsuccessful.

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Really?

No, I was being facetious.

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#164 May 09 2011 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good

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As for being a CEO/manager, if you have high stress AND don't have the resources to manage that stress, you are most likely incompetent and/or unsuccessful.

Since you were originally talking about the wealthy, I'll assume "manager" isn't a low level or even mid manager. What do you think of as wealthy?

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#165 May 10 2011 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good

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Still need help answering your question?

Nope. I'm on the wagon.

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#166 REDACTED, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bsphil,

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#167 May 10 2011 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent

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Except she paid higher taxes in her business because of Republicans.

Whatever you need to help you sleep at night though.

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#168 REDACTED, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bsphil,

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#169 May 10 2011 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent

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Except she paid higher taxes in her business because of Republicans.

Whatever you need to help you sleep at night though.

Remind me again when the Dems took over congress and when the market started crashing.

After my mom decided to leave her business and retire? lol

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#170 May 10 2011 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent

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Why? Because you're mom got tired of fighting "big business" who are all obviously conservative republcians she worked to get Obama elected so he could f*ck up everybodies business, especially small businesses like hers?

I'm just not seeing the evidence of this. I'm actually seeing that his policies tend to be the opposite of what you say.

Sept 2010: $12 billion in tax breaks for small companies.

2008/09: $15 Billion to loosen credit and help small businesses.

Feb 2010: $33 billion in tax incentives to promote hiring, and multiple other good things.

This is what he's doing, or trying to do. You're just stating the party line without any evidence whatsoever.

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#171 May 10 2011 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent

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Driftwood wrote:

I'm actually seeing that his policies tend to be the opposite of what you say.

Reality in general tends to be the opposite of what Varus says it is.

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Almalieque wrote:

If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.

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#172 May 10 2011 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good

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God wants you to live in a fantasy world. It's the Christian way!

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#173 May 10 2011 at 5:59 PM Rating: Default

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Since you were originally talking about the wealthy, I'll assume "manager" isn't a low level or even mid manager. What do you think of as wealthy?

I'm still talking about the wealthy, but I amended my point to include the lowest end of wealth for varus' sake. If you're making 40,000 a year as a manager, you may very well be stressed. If you're making 400,000 a year, you have no excuse for being especially stressed. But then most people view their life stress as significantly greater than average regardless of their actual circumstances. When you're poor, you're struggling so hard, and when you're not, you have so much responsibility!

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