varusword75 wrote:
I'm all for eliminating funding for murdering life
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Vanus,
So you actually believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii and I'm the half-wit?
Hey pot, this is the kettle, you're black.
So you actually believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii and I'm the half-wit?
Hey pot, this is the kettle, you're black.
lolgaxe wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
I'm all for eliminating funding for murdering life
My favorite is when people are pro-life and pro-death penalty. If they were robots their heads would explode...luckily they are immune to logic.
You can't be pro-life and anti-zombie. Jus' saying.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,
The real world does work like this and it is idiotic. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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Luckily, the real world does not work like this, because it's @#%^ing idiotic.
The real world does work like this and it is idiotic. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I'm really not sure what you were trying to say here. If you have two separate bank accounts, you can easily track which one you use to pay for things. gbaji (and apparently now you) seem to say you can't. A "fund" doesn't necessarily have to be a separate bank account, but you track the money just like it is. If your fund runs out of money you can't take money from another fund and say it's the same thing.
It seems like you're saying federal tax dollars have some magical pixie dust on them that gets tainted if the exact same dollar isn't used. You must be pissed when you deposit a dollar bill with a mustache on Washington's face into your account, and don't get the same exact dollar back when you withdraw some cash
Edited, Apr 14th 2011 10:03am by LockeColeMA
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I'm all for eliminating federal funding for religious organizations just the same as I'm all for eliminating funding for murdering life. Of course i'm also for ending the practice of murdering life but that's another thread.
You still claim that abortion is murder, can you please provide me with proven facts supporting that claim. I know this is just you church bred opinion and that you won't actually find any undeniably proven facts that conception = life. While I agree in limits on abortion (typically after 21 weeks when the fetus is matured to the point that it can survive outside of the womb, prior to the 21 week period it can not do so.) It should stand as a choice before hand since the fetus/cellular ooze is not capable of surviving outside of the host.
So dazzle me with factual information....and no I don't want to see joe blow from the church saying its bad cuz god said so.
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.
varusword75 wrote:
I'm all for eliminating federal funding for religious organizations
That's fine and good for you. The point was that Gbaji's bizarre ideas of what counts as funding abortion (or funding religion, I guess) aren't the governmental reality. For instance, you need to keep separate pay records but you can have employees who work both sides of the building. Likewise, you can pay the rent on a building that provides abortions but at a reduced percentage. This isn't some special leniency given to Planned Parenthood, it's how all similar grants work.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
varusword75 wrote:
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So you actually believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii and I'm the half-wit?
No. Why should I? Because he says so? I tend to rely on evidence rather than promises when dealing with politicians regardless of party line.
Lawl irony when there's zero evidence he was born in Kenya, and several very good pieces that he was born in Hawaii
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
I'm all for eliminating federal funding for religious organizations
That's fine and good for you. The point was that Gbaji's bizarre ideas of what counts as funding abortion (or funding religion, I guess) aren't the governmental reality. For instance, you need to keep separate pay records but you can have employees who work both sides of the building. Likewise, you can pay the rent on a building that provides abortions but at a reduced percentage. This isn't some special leniency given to Planned Parenthood, it's how all similar grants work.
This. Joph said it better in one paragraph than I did in several posts, but that was my entire point right there
varusword75 wrote:
Joph,
I'm all for eliminating funding for murdering life.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
varusword75 wrote:
Atard,
What about people that are pro life and anti death penalty?
How does that work for ya?
No. Why should I? Because he says so? I tend to rely on evidence rather than promises when dealing with politicians regardless of party line.
What about people that are pro life and anti death penalty?
How does that work for ya?
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So you actually believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii and I'm the half-wit?
No. Why should I? Because he says so? I tend to rely on evidence rather than promises when dealing with politicians regardless of party line.
Not that I can personally provide it, but what evidence would satisfy you? Since the Hawaiian govt. Has confirmed his birth and provided a birth document, I am assuming that only a time-machine so you could actually witness it would do?
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,Well besides his aunt saying she saw him born there of course.
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zero evidence he was born in Kenya
varusword75 wrote:
There's also this;
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The New York Times has contended that Hawaii has "confirmed" that the online document is authentic, however no state official has publicly verified it is Obama's Certification of Live Birth. They have said they have Obama's records, but they haven't detailed what information they include.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
ITT: gbaji thinks it's "guilty until proven innocent."
varusword75 wrote:
The liberal democrats have ignored this issue for 5yrs. No matter how much they want it to go away it simply isn't.
Just like Obama's presidency, eh?
Loser.
varusword75 wrote:
The liberal democrats have ignored this issue for 5yrs. No matter how much they want it to go away it simply isn't.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,
Well besides his aunt saying she saw him born there of course.
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zero evidence he was born in Kenya
Well besides his aunt saying she saw him born there of course.
Gosh, you're worse than Senator Kyl
Do you mean his step-grandmother? Quote:
What Liddy was referring to is actually an affidavit filed by a street preacher named Ron McRae, who conducted an interview with Sarah Obama, the second wife of President Obama's grandfather, through a translator. (Sarah Obama is not the president's biological grandmother, but he calls her "Granny Sarah.")
In that interview, Sarah Obama does in fact say at one point that she was there for her grandson's birth. But that was a mistake, a confusion in translation. As soon as a jubilant McRae began to press her for further details about her grandson being born in Kenya, the family realized the mistake and corrected him. And corrected him. And corrected him. (The audio is available for download here.)
Here's the conversation:
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?
OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.
MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?
OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.
MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.
OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.
In that interview, Sarah Obama does in fact say at one point that she was there for her grandson's birth. But that was a mistake, a confusion in translation. As soon as a jubilant McRae began to press her for further details about her grandson being born in Kenya, the family realized the mistake and corrected him. And corrected him. And corrected him. (The audio is available for download here.)
Here's the conversation:
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?
OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.
MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?
OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.
MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.
OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.
Nice evidence - and even more hilarious that you don't even know what it actually was, or who said it
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,
I'm not saying they can't; i'm saying they won't. I've seen how huge bureaucracies (UT and Knox co public schools) function and funds get mixed and matched all the time. It's just a fact. That you think any sizable organization operating at the same place and receiving funds from the federal govn isn't going to have the money co-mingling is absurd, even for you.
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. If you have two separate bank accounts, you can easily track which one you use to pay for things. gbaji (and apparently now you) seem to say you can't
I'm not saying they can't; i'm saying they won't. I've seen how huge bureaucracies (UT and Knox co public schools) function and funds get mixed and matched all the time. It's just a fact. That you think any sizable organization operating at the same place and receiving funds from the federal govn isn't going to have the money co-mingling is absurd, even for you.
Wow, you worked in their accounting departments, just like me? Man, we're totally on par in this conversation
Locke,
Wth? You beat me to it. Also, who have to stop the interview earlier, otherwise it ruins vanus' argument.
@ vanus,
Your logic is bad and you should feel bad.
Wth? You beat me to it. Also, who have to stop the interview earlier, otherwise it ruins vanus' argument.
@ vanus,
Your logic is bad and you should feel bad.
Varus wrote:
I've seen how huge bureaucracies (UT and Knox co public schools) function and funds get mixed and matched all the time. It's just a fact
If only there was some way to audit them from time to time and make sure they're following the rules... you know, kind of like I gave a link to.
Belkira wrote:
ITT: gbaji thinks it's "guilty until proven innocent."
Gbaji might be Niobia's mysterious internet laywer.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
ITT: Gbaji doesn't understand accounting.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
ITT: Gbaji doesn't understand accounting.
Gbaji's not going to listen to any so-called accounting "experts" when it's just obvious that he's right. LifeNews told him so.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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