Senate Repeals DADTFollow

So you're saying the US military can't do what so many other military's in the world have done because the soldiers are too uncomfortable? Are your troops all pussys?

It's amusing because you spent a whole lot more time arguing on the "wrong topic" when you apparently could have clarified it easily instead. Do you enjoy wasting an hour of your own accord and then chiding someone for wasting ten minutes? Interesting hobby.

Really? No one else with military experience has posted in this thread? Fascinating.


Heh.

Edited, Jan 2nd 2011 7:09pm by Jophiel

What's that? Integrate women and men in the showers?

Seriously, I'm not trying to toot our own horn or anything, but ask anyone to list the top 5 militaries in the world. I'm sure the U.S. would appear in every list, so we can't be that much of a p*ssy...



That's because women care about not sharing showers with men, not women, so they don't care. Society has supported their desires. That was kind of the point me mentioning the double standard.




Silly you, not only did I clarify it multiple times, it is known by everyone that I will argue about anything just for the fun of it. It's not my fault you didn't realize that. Yes, it is indeed an interesting hobby, it's my guilty pleasure.



My point was that I didn't hear their point of view on my argument. If they stated something, I overlooked it or I just don't remember it.

So the other militaries have open showers with men and women? If not, comfort is indeed "cutting it", just not for men, because people like you are just bigots.

Why would straight women be any less freaked out about showering with lesbians than straight men are about showering with gay men? If that is indeed the standard we're using, which seems a bit thin.

The female barracks are 24/7 lingerie pillow fights.

If I'm not mistaken, he is currently NOT in the military, but used to be and probably entered before DADT was implemented. He's speaking from a whole other generation. I'm not talking about what people THOUGHT, but what people are thinking NOW. Unless he's still interacting with military, i.e. GS employer, he's now a civilian.

If we were talking about then, I'm sure more of the military was way more intolerable then they are now, along with the rest of the nation.



Women are typically more comfortable with women, regardless of sexuality, than with men in those scenarios. Men are typically more comfortable with women, regardless of sexuality, than with men in those same scenarios. So that's why a lesbian typically doesn't phase a heterosexual man or woman.



In any case, I never said that they were sex crazed. I said that they are no different than heterosexual men. I don't know a single heterosexual man that wouldn't look a woman that he's attracted to in the shower. So unless you're arguing that homosexual men are a "special" breed of men, then they would do the same thing. If you claim that they are indeed somehow different, then they should be treated differently. So which one is it?

Eh, I've read other threads (on other forums) asking if gay dudes check out the shower action in health clubs and the like and the general consensus was "No, not really. I'm really just there to shower and move on."

This doesn't have anything to do with being "special" or whatever. If I was spitballing it, I'd guess that showering with dudes is the norm so it loses its **** fantasy mystique as opposed to a straight guy showering with a bunch of chicks.

No, it's about you being utterly unable to overcome your discomfort around someone who is different enough from you to cause you discomfort in the first place. You're right, however, when you keep saying your not a homophobe though:

You're a coward.

Ok, you've typed RDD about a dozen times. Are you trying to reference rdmcandie and are just incapable of typing "RDM"? I'm honestly curious.

No you said this.




Gay men are not women, they are men. Which is why your comparison is stupid and why I asked if you grew a ****** and breasts when around gay men. They are not different and don't deserve any special treatment, straight men are not different and don't deserve any special treatment.

Men have a *****, Women have a Vvagina. You should have learned that in grade 3.

You keep comparing it to the same thing as showering with a woman and it is not the same at all.

Lastly it is you who is arguing for special treatment. There should be none, at all. Currently you shower/have showered with a gay man, it did not bother you then but now it does bother you. If you have not been raped in the shower yet you likely won't be. Furthermore, even straight men put it in each others *** given a long enough period of womenless environment. So your "special" spin is ******* pointless.

Either you can accept gays or you can't, you are either a bigot or you are not. Continually posting the same stupid comparison that is meaningless, strongly supports the latter of the two.

Oh, so you're just being a hypocrite for chiding someone for enjoying something that you admit to enjoying yourself.

No surprise there.



Gee, it's almost as if that discomfort comes from a perceived threat of some kind, like the kind that comes from the presence of a more physically aggressive and powerful entity, rather than a similar one.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2011 12:02am by Kachi

Nope, they don't. They have open showers with gay and straights though and comfort has been a non-issue. Why are American troops such pansies and incapable of doing what so many others are?