Democrats are racistsFollow

I wish you'd stop trying to pin every racist act in the last 50 years on a Democrat. It's getting old.

I'm sorry, but when your greed is to get more stuff because of your skin color, that's racism. If two people are identical in every way other than skin color and one gets more benefits from the government than the other, that person is benefiting from a racist policy, and the party who pushes that policy is engaging in racist politics. Doubly so if it does so in order to garner votes from the group of people it's benefiting in such a way.

It is *not* racist for another party to point this out and say that it's wrong.




No, they aren't. To be equal, the GOP would have to be telling white voters that if they vote Republican, they will get *more* benefits than other racial groups. But that's not what's happening. The GOP is arguing that race should not be a factor when determining benefits. Yet, in the bizarre world of racial politics we live in, fighting for unequal treatment of people based on their skin is labeled as "civil rights", and fighting against unequal treatment of people based on their skin is labeled as "racism".


Strange, don't you agree? Seriously. Step back from the specifics and look at what's going on. Drop the labels. Racism is racism regardless of which skin colors benefit or lose. Yet, consistently, many people get this wrong.

Awesome.

No body else asked what you meant when you wrote "Southen Strategy" Joph. Do you really think that's because everyone immediately got that you weren't actually talking about the southern strategy as related by the guy who applied that label, but some other vaguely defined trend of racism assumed to be in the GOP, that has no relation to that phrase, and bears no similarity to the conditions or context it appeared? Cause that would be freaking amazing! Apparently, the entire forum is filled with mind readers...


You're kidding right? You just tossed out a phrase and assumed everyone would just substitute it in their minds with "Something racist the GOP does". Which is kinda meaningless. You could have just written any two random words and said the same thing.



The GOP has done many things wrong over the years. But engaging in a platform based on systematic racism isn't one of them. Since that's the topic at hand, I'm going to stick to discussing that topic. Now if you want to talk about mistakes made by the Nixon administration with regard to Vietnam and the Watergate scandal, I'll freely admit to them. Or if you want to talk about the pros and cons of Reagan's decision to withdraw from Lebanon. Or the admission I made just a couple weeks ago that the amnesty program enacted by Reagan was a mistake. Or various minor failures which lead to the S&L scandals. Or failure to follow through on all the promises made during the Contract with America. Or their failure to act forcefully enough to prevent the combination of factors leading to the current economic problems. Or the decision to follow Rumsfeld's minimal-troops strategy in Iraq. Or the failure to adequately respond to media claims surrounding the war in Iraq in general (I think Bush's press secretary at the time was a complete disaster).

There are a host of things I will gladly criticize the GOP for. The problem is that you seem to continually want me to adopt your own view of the reasons for GOP actions, and apologize for them. I don't agree that racism is a major component of the GOP platform. Thus, I'm not going to admit or apologize for it. See how that works? Similarly, I don't agree with the liberal assertions about the economic effects of wealth. Thus, I'm not going to admit or apologize for GOP support for "making the rich richer while the poor suffer". To do so requires that I accept assumptions which I do not believe are true.


That you then spin this into whether I'm willing to admit the GOP makes mistakes is just icing on the cake. It's not about that Joph. You're asking me to essentially become a liberal in terms of how I view socio-economic policy. But I'm not a liberal. In my view, I have nothing to apologize for. I believe that policies which benefit one group of people over another on the basis of their race are racist and wrong, no matter which race is benefited. I'm not going to change that view, no matter how cleverly you work to twist the issue around.


What the Dems do as a matter of policy is racist. Period. You can come up with new labels for it. You can convince yourself that it's ok to be racist if it benefits historically disadvantaged groups. But it's still "racist". What you (and most liberals) seem to want to do is change the meaning of the word so that it just doesn't apply in the situations where you don't want it to. Perhaps it's because you don't want to face the truth of what you're supporting? I don't know. But you do it. And you get angry at people like me when we point it out. Perhaps that's your conscience telling you something. I don't know. Only you can examine your own soul Joph. I'm just asking that you not attack me for taking a position that deep down you know is the right one.

Right.

I'm so proud of you.











And, for the last time, Varrus...the vast majority of segregationist (read: racist) Democrats bolted to the Republican party between '65 and '75. Read a goddam history book you ******* idiot.

Bijou,




The vast majority of segregationist were Democrats, that's a fact. And guess what; we continue to have to deal with rino's today.

...................that's what I said.


As the Democratic party evolved into the party of Equal Rights for all, regardless of color, creed or national origin the racist element of the party, primarily from the Southern states, left for the GOP.


Hence, "Southern Strategy": A GOP effort to woo racist to vote Republican. This was obvious to me 30 years ago whilst still in High School. Why is the concept confounding you now?

Varrus is from Tennessee. Personally, this thread is the first time I've heard the term "Southern Strategy." I'm assumin' that 'round these pahts, we don tahlk about that unpleasant bizness.

You mean the Bush era DoJ that dropped the criminal charges? Bush hates black people!


Again, I think it's adorable that you and Gbaji can wet your pants over Senator Byrd's past but then wave off subsequent decades of systemic racism as an election strategy by the GOP as "It was just ever so long ago!"

There's that handwaving again! You're going to get carpel tunnel.

You are really desperate.

Samy,

Yeah if i'd hate having to defend a racist president if I were you.

Every other word out of Obama's mouth is about race.

Really? Because you're the one that's been riding this train everyday for a week.